[aajami]

Originally Posted by kmarei

So if you're interested in a NA M car
You're out of luck

Why would you make 3 cars that are all turbocharged?
It's now simply a matter of how large do you want it
You've got your small in the m2
Medium in the m3/4
And large in m5/6

Couldn't they have made on model for the fans of NA engines?
A highly tuned 4 cyl engine in a light weight body?
With all the talk about how advanced BMW is with carbon fiber manufacturing
You'd think they could come up with some shared parts to make this happen

BMW will never make another NA engine, let alone the M division. The future of the company is turbos for the near-future, hybrid over the next decade, and probably all-electric by 2030 or so. The writing's been on the wall for the last 3-4 years or so.

[Ashley Schaeffer BMW]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

MEH. the 1M was more of an M car than the M3, imo....the spirit is more important than the criteria.

Hahahahahahaha......... Hahahahhahaha.

Also disappointed to see BMW is still being lazy and cheap as far as engine choices.

[UltraRacer13]

What do you think it will weigh? Seems to me it will be the closest thing to a modern e36 we have ever seen. I hope it is the track beast it looks to be.

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Sorry to disappoint, but my source has never been wrong. The only thing that's not guaranteed is transition from engineering to production: not every car makes it. But if the source says N55 - it will be N55. I'm willing to bet real money on this.

What did your source tell you about the M3/M4? V6?

You source is maybe correct, mine is wrong, but you source doesn't bring good new.

Really, a cheap N55 engine in a 55K M2?

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

the 1M was probably as fun of an M car as possible in 2011.....and hopefully the M2 will carry that tradition further!

In the same way your 135is is much better than the M235i i suppose

[sid21177]

so what happens to the M235i if/when this comes out ??

[BenchRacerYo]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

who cares what "95% of people" think? Or maybe popular view is your only support......just because you have an M3 and want to negate other M cars like the 1M? nice try......

no need to douche up the conversation....you've made it much dumber.

Judging by all the replies following this one, I know I'm in the majority. The 1M was just a much better 135is.

Saying the 1M is more of an M car than the M3 is just ignorant and all around stupid.

[loesch]

Originally Posted by Levi

S55 is OK. S48 is even better IMO. But N55? Never. Not ///M worthy.

What's an S48??

[BenchRacerYo]

Originally Posted by MuNkY6913

hahaha, 1M is alot better than the M3 clunkers. If they ever catch up they still think they have the best. i guess ignorance is bliss. hahahahaha

Go home, "1 addict", you're drunk.

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by BenchRacerYo

Judging by all the replies following this one, I know I'm in the majority. The 1M was just a much better 135is.

Saying the 1M is more of an M car than the M3 is just ignorant and all around stupid.

[Tåst]

Is it possible that Bmw have hurry to get M2 on markets? So they just throw S48 to trash can and put N55 on M2. No long hot climate or winter tests etc.

Somehow I wanted to see six cylinder NA engine. S54 whit all new technology.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Levi

What did your source tell you about the M3/M4? V6?

If you search the forum, you will see that I was the one who first reported on S55 in M3/4, being wrong only with the horsepower numbers.

You source is maybe correct, mine is wrong, but you source doesn't bring good new.

This is the complaint you better take to M GmbH. I don't make the cars, I only report the news.

[Black Flagged]

What no supercharged S20

[golf4501]

Originally Posted by UltraRacer13

What do you think it will weigh? Seems to me it will be the closest thing to a modern e36 we have ever seen. I hope it is the track beast it looks to be.

If I recall correctly the Car and Driver article said 3200 pounds, with Carbon Fiber roof, and heavy use of Aluminum and Magnesium.

[vladberca]

Still a lot of time for development...

[///mawana]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nice

n55

Stuff the s55 in and reduce the power

Originally Posted by ///mawana

No difference to me.....!

Originally Posted by Mr. Nice

power was never the point, where do you see that?

[lawgone]

I feel dumber for having read the comments in this thread...especially the ones about the "cheap" n55 engine.

[Rupes]

Originally Posted by kmarei

So if you're interested in a NA M car
You're out of luck

Why would you make 3 cars that are all turbocharged?
It's now simply a matter of how large do you want it
You've got your small in the m2
Medium in the m3/4
And large in m5/6

I kind of like this idea. If the engine is a fantastic one, why not use it in several platforms and you pick the size of the car?

[Rupes]

Originally Posted by DC52E55

I agree. N55 doesn't belong in a //M car in 2015, but then //M doesn't really mean much these days.

I am still hoping for a 4 cylinder light weight M car.

Me too, but the light weight car you and I want won't come from the 2 series. The 2 series weighs 3500 pounds. What exactly would you do to shave 500 -700 pounds from it? Not possible. So instead, be happy for a silky smooth inline 6. If they can tweak it to make it better than the regular N55, it should be a great car!

[BoostNinja]

Originally Posted by alpinweiss 335i

Interesting. It makes almost no sense to use:

1. A front heavy 6 cylinder on such a light car, when they can squeeze the same power rating out of a 4

2. A 6 year old n55


We shall see. I'll be happy if they make it work. I'm a big fan of the n55 as it is. Apparently, so is the ///M division with this news, and with the use of the s55 in the upcoming f80/82.

M235i weighs 3500 or 3540 with auto trans. Not light by any means.

I'll keep my 3500lb 335is.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by lawgone

I feel dumber for having read the comments in this thread...especially the ones about the "cheap" n55 engine.

Wait, remind me what's so special about it? I mean, the S55 at least adds some reasonable technology. It's not as special as the S65 or the S54, but it's not a cookie cutter motor that's in everything from the $38.8k X1 35i to the $81k 740Li xDrive.

Similar "S-ifying" of the N20 would make for a much more unique motor than an N55.

[Roundown]

Originally Posted by TheDeliverator

Make it happen BMW.

M2 needs an M Division motor. No standard motor in an M car.

1M?