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      11-20-2019, 11:04 AM   #67
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UCP is amazing ... Def consider it
When somebody gets them to make RHD version they might sell some in a few more countries...
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Just placed an order for SSK with 20% reduction, stock height with 80% Polly bushing.
What's the benefit of the 80% vs the other options he offers?
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Just placed an order for SSK with 20% reduction, stock height with 80% Polly bushing.
What's the benefit of the 80% vs the other options he offers?
I believe he only offers 80% for our F8x.

Per Ron: In addition we offer a urethane bronze bushing upgrade for $xx that adds stability to the shift platform and firms up the pattern even more. It is an incremental feel rather than the big jump in precision offered by the shifter and is worth it if you value the repeatability of the pattern above all other characteristics. And a must if you plan to track the car.
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Great thread.

Just ordered the Auto Solutions SSK, 22.5% reduction, stock height, with the 80a bushing. Looking forward to it. UCP to follow.
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[QUOTE=m20e3087;25484262]I believe he only offers 80% for our F8x.

Here is one of Ron's (owner of AS) emails to me:

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two variables reduction ratio and shifter height.
Reduction ratio first. Basically you have 3 options. Low reduction, Mid reduction and high reduction. There is no difference in precision or repeatability of the pattern regardless of the reduction level. The only trade off is reduced travel for additional shifting effort. If you want to shore up the feel in your shifter and get a gated feel with extreme precision and no slop and want as little additional effort as possible then choose low reduction. Mid reduction adds a little effort and reduces the throw. High reduction takes it a step further in that direction.
Even our high reduction will not be objectionable effort wise and our low reduction very very close to stock effort. that is because the mechanism is much more efficient at transmitting force than the stock setup. I personally use a 22.5% in one car and 25% in the other. I personally do not like the high reduction shifter because I like to be able to shift with a couple of fingers and I get flustered when driving fast so I like to have a relatively open pattern.If I were cool and composed on the track and did not have to deal with stop and go traffic I would probably go to a 30-35 percent shifter. Conversely, If i was stuck in traffic all the time I would probably go to a 10 or 15% shifter. And around 20% is a good all around compromise.

Height of the shifter lever is another variable and a personal choice and has to do with the angle of your forearm. And folks preference as to height seems to change with the times. 2 years ago 13mm taller was very popular with the idea that it would compensate for the identical drop in height when a ZHP or similar knob is used. Last year folks liked the 6mm taller as it would kinda split the difference between the ZHP and stock knob. For the past 4 months I have been only selling stock height with one exception. A 4mm talller knob. Why 4 and not 6 is beyond me but the custom height was at no cost and I obliged. My preference matters little in this regards and all the above mentioned configurations are rooted in sound logic.
If you are using one of the shorter knobs (ZHP , M5) We can certainly build the shifter 13 mm taller so that the resulting height is stock .However keep in mind that should you ever want to revert to the stock knob then the shifter will present taller than it is right now and getting it back to stock height would require you to send us the shift lever so that we can modify it. Personally unless the stock height is problematic, I would limit the increase in height to what is needed to compensate for the ZHP. Conversely we can build the shifter shorter than stock if you want a lower height and still retain the stock knob.I most cases however, stock height works well so if it is not broke don't fix it.
Hope that helps.


Ron is an incredible dude and is a real perfectionist. After this and a few other emails I went stock height and 25% reduction. I married that to a 1.5 lb RACESENG shift knob and a UCP and I've got a awesome shifter now....
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Those already had their SSK installed do I need any other polly bushing other than what Ron is providing for us? I am still waiting for mine to arrive.

Should I replace Polyurethane Rear Shifter Bushing? https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-5...ifter-bushing/

Found a video of SSK install for M2.


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Yep, those are the two poly bushes that will come with the kit from Ron.

That's all you need to change.

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Yep, those are the two poly bushes that will come with the kit from Ron.

That's all you need to change.

Thanks man! I was looking at few other forums found the answer. So edited the post. What do you think of Polyurethane Rear Shifter Bushing? Since we have everything apart might as well get it done.
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Received my SSK kit from AS. This is with the 80a+ bushing (softest of the three bushings offered by Ron, but still stiffer than the OE bushing). See my earlier post for details on the three bushing types.

Kit gets installed Tuesday. I'll post some comments afterward.
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does it make any noise while in gear? Im on the fence rn and this is the only thing worrying me
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does it make any noise while in gear? Im on the fence rn and this is the only thing worrying me
In gear? as opposed to what, stationary in neutral?

As you'd expect it ONLY makes the noise whilst in gear and under load. Only a little under deceleration as the gear load on overrrun is minimal, unless you do agrressive downshifts then it is a little noisy on overrun too.

More load more whirring noise. But mine was sorted with heavy shift knob, which is a good purchase in its own right.
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The AS SSK in my car makes no noise at all.

Other than the snick, snick as it moves between gears.
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Finally got mine installed about 2 weeks ago, and did about 600 miles on the SSK, and OMG day and night difference IMO. Even the guy who had installed it said the same, and shop owner also owns a OG M2, said he will install on his as well. But man shifts are crisp and solid, and rubberi feel is gone, and now it feels like a mens ride lol. I also have the weighted knob 1.8lb, and didn't notice any noise. Also tested out the OE knob, with the OE knob you really hear the click clack shifting sound, but with the weighted the sound is somewhat less. Told Ron, that I wanted Porsche like shift feel, with SSK IMO its 70% there. Next up is UPC, wondering how much of a difference it will make. I am currently running BMS clutch stop.

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and now it feels like a mens ride lol.
haha, that's exactly how I described it. A man's shifter
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Told Ron, that I wanted Porsche like shift feel, with SSK IMO its 70% there.
If it feels and shift close to a Porsche. Then its more than worth the price and a few trade off (noise). My only grip with every Bimmer I've owned. BMW shifters and trannies.
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Its one of most pleasing mods you can do to the car. The weighted shift knob is part of the pkg and helps in the overall "feel".

The UCP completes the deal. Clutch grabs near the floor naturally (no clutch stop). What I like the most is at rest the pedal is the same height as the brake pedal. Perfect for track duty
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Its one of most pleasing mods you can do to the car. The weighted shift knob is part of the pkg and helps in the overall "feel".

The UCP completes the deal. Clutch grabs near the floor naturally (no clutch stop). What I like the most is at rest the pedal is the same height as the brake pedal. Perfect for track duty
Mine sits about a half inch deeper than the brake pedal... Hmmmm... I thought that was normal?
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I'm about to order the AS SSK (with bushings) to get rid of the stock rubbery feel.

I'm wondering if the Turner carrier bushings are also needed or will the AS SSK be enough?
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I'm about to order the AS SSK (with bushings) to get rid of the stock rubbery feel.

I'm wondering if the Turner carrier bushings are also needed or will the AS SSK be enough?
I, along with some others on here, have gone with the 80a. I haven't installed mine yet but others think just these bushings are sufficient. I'm curious, what brought up the thought re the Turner carrier bushings (i.e., what benefit do you expect) and how is it different than the bushing given by Ron? Is this the part? https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-5...ifter-bushing/

Does it compliment the bushing given my Ron at AS, or is it the same one we get in our package?

Interested to learn about anything that makes this manual better.

Also, be aware that if you do the UCP as well you'll start to notice that the engagement point can be all over the place and you aren't as smooth between different gear scenarios (engagement point is not predictable and identical between 1-2 and 2-3 for example). This is due to the CDV in the slave cylinder and some people have had success replacing that cylinder. See thread linked below for details:


CDV Removal/Replacement "Easier" Option https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1682441
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I, along with some others on here, have gone with the 80a. I haven't installed mine yet but others think just these bushings are sufficient. I'm curious, what brought up the thought re the Turner carrier bushings (i.e., what benefit do you expect) and how is it different than the bushing given by Ron? Is this the part? https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-5...ifter-bushing/

Does it compliment the bushing given my Ron at AS, or is it the same one we get in our package?

Interested to learn about anything that makes this manual better.

Also, be aware that if you do the UCP as well you'll start to notice that the engagement point can be all over the place and you aren't as smooth between different gear scenarios (engagement point is not predictable and identical between 1-2 and 2-3 for example). This is due to the CDV in the slave cylinder and some people have had success replacing that cylinder. See thread linked below for details:


CDV Removal/Replacement "Easier" Option https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1682441
Thanks for the reply. I was also planning on getting the 80a bushings from Ron.

Somebody else a few posts prior was also inquiring about the rear bushings from Turner (the link you provided is the product I was inquiring about). Turner claims changing those bushings helps with some of the slop. Was wondering if anyone installed the Turner rear bushings in addition to the AS SSK? Was also wondering if/how they compliment the AS SSK?

Figured they'd be easy to swap while doing the SSK.
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I have no "slop" after installing the kit. IMHO these is no need for the Turner bushings
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Just received my AS SSK. 22.5% reduction, stock height, 80a bushing.

Anyone know the average install cost? Planning to take to a local dealer.
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