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      11-26-2018, 10:28 PM   #45
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It would look fine without those two "extra" lights.

Also, comparing these two cars is highly questionable. This car should be compared to Alfa 4C, Mazda MX-5, Lotus Exige, maybe a base Cayman.
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that front end is hideous AF
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      11-26-2018, 11:39 PM   #47
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Should have ditched the two inner lights, legacy be damned!
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      11-27-2018, 12:48 AM   #48
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Alpine is irrelevant to me
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Alpine is irrelevant to me
No one cares about your baseless opinion = it's completely irrelevant.
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I think the Alpine is a very nice car. I have no interest in buying one but I can appreciate what an achievement it is. I like the (tastefully done) homage to the original too.
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Also, comparing these two cars is highly questionable. This car should be compared to Alfa 4C, Mazda MX-5, Lotus Exige, maybe a base Cayman.
It is, but it would deny an opportunity to troll BMW

Next week: we compare a professionally-prepared print of Monet's Water-Lily Pond to a BMW M2C, and postulate the thesis that the BMW is totally useless for being put on display in a corporate art gallery and anybody spending that much money on a small, heavy coupé like that clearly needs their head examining.
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It is, but it would deny an opportunity to troll BMW

Next week: we compare a professionally-prepared print of Monet's Water-Lily Pond to a BMW M2C, and postulate the thesis that the BMW is totally useless for being put on display in a corporate art gallery and anybody spending that much money on a small, heavy coupé like that clearly needs their head examining.
Some paint and a brush will do the trick.



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I think the Alpine is a very nice car. I have no interest in buying one but I can appreciate what an achievement it is. I like the (tastefully done) homage to the original too.
+1, I'm a real Cayman enthusiast, but this car is something else, and though I'm not very Renault minded I 'd choose this Alpine above any Cayman in the current lineup plus Alfa 4C(doh!!!).
I love Alpine's heritage too. (Monte Carlo etc)

On the other hand: Which sporty fun car has four seats, space for (a lot of) luggage and can be driven 24/7/365: M2C

But!

It's definitely no coincidence Alpine won Top Gear PCOTY 2018...

Edit, take a look at this. The balance, the fun. I actually want one...



FYI normal OG M2 was already 2s faster or so, but hey, drifting

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If there's ever anything I aftermarket for the Alpine, I'd imagine someone will make a bumper cover deleting the inner lights. I understand the lineage to it, but it's an immediate turn off on a modern car to me. To each their own of course
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Cool car but I'll take the M2C
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I'm sure it's a great car but this is the first thing I thought of when I saw it...
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Same here!

Cool car and all but not a great car to compare with the M2
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Some paint and a brush will do the trick.



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This car just doesn't interest me at all. I've never driven it, but I have had a chance to drive the 4C many times and it just doesn't really do anything for me. Sure, it's an interesting car to look at, and just sitting in it is an event. But the combo of small 4 pot with decently big turbo/s, and a DCT is just not a great result.

Give me a GT4 (different price bracket I know) or something like a Z4M or S2000 all day.
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Shame A'car still quote BMW's mis-leading info re stiffer suspension and rose jointed rear arms.......yawn
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250 hp ugly Miata is what I saw in the vid. Please no. If anything the Porsche > M2C but this fugly beast ? Jeeeeeeeebus!
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Neat car, but I’ll take a manual OG M2 or M2c over this in a heartbeat, and I don’t even need the practicality.
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Alpine is irrelevant to me
No one cares about your baseless opinion = it's completely irrelevant.
My opinion has plenty of basis. Don't be upset.

It's not available in my country.
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This car just doesn't interest me at all. I've never driven it, but I have had a chance to drive the 4C many times and it just doesn't really do anything for me. Sure, it's an interesting car to look at, and just sitting in it is an event. But the combo of small 4 pot with decently big turbo/s, and a DCT is just not a great result.

Give me a GT4 (different price bracket I know) or something like a Z4M or S2000 all day.
Foul!
I think comparing cars not in the same genre or price range was outlawed several posts back... Everything must be in nicely categorized, well defined buckets
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It's all subjective but for a supposedly great car the 110A front lights are horrendous.
Go figure...I love the Alpine front end, in my eyes it is a perfect modern rendering of the 60s car. On the other hand I find the rear end rather uninspiring. The big issue of this car is however the lack of a manual transmission.
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Where is the Z4 Coupe?

The real competitor should have been the Z4 coupe. Oh sorry, Toyota Supra. I agree that this car is not really comparable in spec or concept to dedicated sports car but at this point it is closest.

The BMW M2 is such a rewarding car to drive and is much more practical to use everyday as well. It looks amazing. It’s tech is better. It’s brand is better and is simply more 3 dimensional than 1 show pony Alpine.

But this is me and I might be a bit of “die hard BMW fan”
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my people have been waiting for this car since 1977..... amazing
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