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      11-26-2018, 04:31 PM   #23
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They lost me as a buyer as soon as they deviated massively from the concept car and didn't offer manual.
Yeah that's a massive departure from the Concept indeed


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Yeah that's a massive departure from the Concept indeed
When it was a joint Renault and Caterham venture to build the A110-50
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That Alpine is such a joke, after months and months of following the car's progress, the designers kept insisting how their focus was on making the car "for the purist" and "for people that enjoy driving" and how "we do not care about lap times".

Then, they slap a silly DCT only....even when they admitted that the manual was lighter, they still went ahead. I really hate what they did, that DCT just ruined the whole idea behind the car for me.

They do not own us anything, and they obviously can release a product anyway they wish, but as Die ///M Rakete said, it is just another auto sports car.
Have you even bothered watching a few reviews of the car? Obviously not because most if not all reviewers say it's simply the most enjoyable to drive small light sports car on the market, more so than the 718 Cayman, period.

As for those who do not understand where the front fascia design comes from, that's a lot of ignorance for self-proclaimed purists / driving enthusiasts
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Yeah that's a massive departure from the Concept indeed


Oh wow... It still has the Celica front and a dumpy, droopy ass-end, but it does look a whole lot nicer
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When it was a joint Renault and Caterham venture to build the A110-50
This wasn't the result of the aborted collaboration with Caterham but simply a lazy rehash of the Renault Dezir Concept, meant to announce a future Alpine model in a flashy, extrovert, for show only manner, never supposed to prefigure the production A110 and actually quite far from the brand's values.

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I'm sure it's a great car but this is the first thing I thought of when I saw it...
That's absurd. You've never seen the original A110 from the 60s? Sigh...
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Yeah that's a massive departure from the Concept indeed
When it was a joint Renault and Caterham venture to build the A110-50
That was not a real A110 concept....was just a design exercise.
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Oh wow... It still has the Celica front and a dumpy, droopy ass-end, but it does look a whole lot nicer

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I take you point it depends on what your looking for but they are 2 different cars, in my opinion itís like comparing apples and oranges.

Those in the market looking to buy an alpine A110 are Unlikely to see the M2 as an alternative and vice versa. Iím sure it would be the minority. Donít get me wrong Renault are renowned for making great handling cars so not disputing its capabilities

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I think you make the point perfectly. The comparo thread / video on M2C v RS3 v Camaro made a lot more sense to me than this comparo.

And I think BlkSVT is right in that if you're just looking for a toy, then you're gonna consider everything under the sun.

Of the 4 seater "I need to have a practical car but want it to be awesome and fun" cars, M2C struck me as the obvious choice. Now, I'm in the market for a 3rd car (just a toy) and want a mid-engine, 2 seater. So, which is best in that class? Cayman, Alfa 4C, or Alpine?
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Facepalm...
I get it now. Alpine most definitely makes car stereo equipment where I'm from

Thanks for the pic
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Oh wow... It still has the Celica front and a dumpy, droopy ass-end, but it does look a whole lot nicer
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The original A110 is one of the greatest sports cars ever made so the new A110 has some amazing genetics! More history than any current BMW. The original A110 was the first ever world rally championship winning car...

Gearbox debate aside; Alpine have done a great job resurrecting itself.
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The new Alpine A110 is just a great little car! I've driven the Alpine already and it's a blast to drive!

If you can compare it to another car, it would be a Lotus Elise regarding driving dynamics, but you can live with the Alpine on a daily basis. And regarding the DCT, it's the first car I could live without a manual.
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"I'm having more fun in this car, on this road, than I would have in any supercar."


"And this thing just feels light and agile on its feet, in a way that, I'm afraid to say, a Cayman 718 does not. And it's all about the kilograms, this thing weighs nearly 300 kilograms less than the Cayman."

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The Alpine would look a lot better if the inner-headlights (nostrils?) were covered up.
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That's absurd. You've never seen the original A110 from the 60s? Sigh...
And it looks fuck-all like the A110 from the 1960s. It does look a lot like that 90s Celica, though. Enjoy the Alpine, and your continued rather transparent trolling
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wouldn't a brz be a better comparison? hell even a bicycle with that weight
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That's absurd. You've never seen the original A110 from the 60s? Sigh...
And it looks fuck-all like the A110 from the 1960s. It does look a lot like that 90s Celica, though. Enjoy the Alpine, and your continued rather transparent trolling
Haha yup, not a ton of similarity there. I'm sure the Alpine drives great but the front end looks too kit car'ish to me. Not sure why they're even comparing it to the M2. The M2 sits four, is practical, has great visibility, can be driven year round no problem AND is great on track/autocross.
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It's pretty ugly but I bet the chassis is pretty fun to drive. Also it has a 4 banger from a Renault Clio and is automatic only...pass.
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Just can't get over that face of the A110

No 6MT? Pass!!!

I would just go for the Lotus Exige if I wanted an affordable pure sports car.
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No 6MT bad.
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The Alpine front-end styling does not do it for me, regardless of performance
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