[COChris]

Originally Posted by jmg

Digital cluster. Nooooooo!!!!
Manual: Yes!
Carbonstructure Cloth Seats: YESSSSSSSS!
Dual Zone HVAC: Noooooooooo!!

Cluster isn't digital, it's actually backlit. Cool and clever when you see it in person.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by COChris

Cluster isn't digital, it's actually backlit. Cool and clever when you see it in person.

If it's the same on in the F30, I've seen it and it's not impressive. Is there a different one in the M2 Comp?

[gabriel.psd]

Why in the hell did they not make a manual M3CS

[Miko M]

Reminds me on mine F80 M3

Waiting for G80 but now brings mine old memories back and I want M2CS
MT

[Tag]

Originally Posted by gabriel.psd

Why in the hell did they not make a manual M3CS

Best guess is the M2cs will make less power than the M3cs, and so the MT they have will be able to handle it. The M3cs probably made so much power that without a redesign they couldn't give it the MT. Look for the upcoming G8x M cars to most likely get the next revision of MT that will be able to handle more power.

[mtoosexy]

CS.... MANUAL....praise jeebus!!!!!

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by Tag

Best guess is the M2cs will make less power than the M3cs, and so the MT they have will be able to handle it. The M3cs probably made so much power that without a redesign they couldn't give it the MT. Look for the upcoming G8x M cars to most likely get the next revision of MT that will be able to handle more power.

I believe it is a misconception that the manual is inferior to the current DCT for handling power. Torque is the real issue, but the current 6MT was supporting 600hp.

[gabriel.psd]

Originally Posted by Tag

Best guess is the M2cs will make less power than the M3cs, and so the MT they have will be able to handle it. The M3cs probably made so much power that without a redesign they couldn't give it the MT. Look for the upcoming G8x M cars to most likely get the next revision of MT that will be able to handle more power.

It’s the same motor. I don’t buy that at all.

[Rupes]

Originally Posted by PureModelsOnly

Will people really pay markup prices for what essentially is a M2 that's had the leftover parts bin from the F8X thrown at it?

All day long and twice on Sunday.

[GOLFFRR]

loving the updated info,

[N54]

Originally Posted by Rupes

All day long and twice on Sunday.

This

[CP911]

So is the M Carbonstructure cloth going to make it to production or is it only going to be leather/Alcantara like originally reported? I hope it ends up being cloth! Very cool.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

I believe it is a misconception that the manual is inferior to the current DCT for handling power. Torque is the real issue, but the current 6MT was supporting 600hp.

Just basing it off this...

Klaus Fröhlich

"Honestly, you have a problem with manuals," he told me. "Because we have these turbocharged engines with 600 N-m [roughly 443 lb-ft] of torque, to develop such a high-torque manual transmission for such a small volume isn't profitable at all. So I tried to prolong the lifetime of the manuals, but we can't invest in developing a new manual transmission. No transmission partner will do that with us. So we are evolving our existing manuals as long as possible."

Source: https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-sho...smissions-awd/

Originally Posted by gabriel.psd

It’s the same motor. I don’t buy that at all.

Its power output won't be as high as an M3/4cs. Can't step on big brothers toes.

[jdub486]

Nice! I like the cut outs. Looks like they ditched the color inserts. As an m2C owner, the only thing that really makes me salty is the carbon fiber roof, because of the invasive nature of the retrofit. Hood, tune, wheels, steering wheel all easy retrofits. Interested to see confirmation of adaptive dampers or spring changes.

[Habber]

Originally Posted by mtoosexy

CS.... MANUAL....praise jeebus!!!!!

Until 95% of buyers buy the automatic...

[mtoosexy]

Originally Posted by Habber

Until 95% of buyers buy the automatic...

yup, but as long as I get to row my own, they can buy whatever they want. will only make mine more special

[jmg]

Originally Posted by gabriel.psd

Why in the hell did they not make a manual M3CS

Probably because when being competitive on the track, the DCT does an objectively better job. More gears for more flexibility, faster shifts, and less chassis destabilization with rev-matching and closer ratios. The DCT might not be as "fun" or "pure", but in a road race, it's the choice for professionals... not that many M3 CS owners will ever take advantage of that fully. Personally, I will track my CS, but not competitively. It looks like the M2 CS will happily be more for the pure enthusiast. I'm all for it, and I do wish the M3 CS came in manual as well, but I understand why BMW did it. The DCT is truly still a blast to drive though, so I can't complain too much.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by jdub486

Nice! I like the cut outs. Looks like they ditched the color inserts. As an m2C owner, the only thing that really makes me salty is the carbon fiber roof, because of the invasive nature of the retrofit. Hood, tune, wheels, steering wheel all easy retrofits. Interested to see confirmation of adaptive dampers or spring changes.

I'm really surprised the M2C didn't already come with the M Seats with the cutout. It's been in the M3/4 ZCP for years now. It's almost harder to find them without the cutouts.

[David1]

Will we be able to get leather? That cloth feels like sandpaper to me.

[mtoosexy]

Originally Posted by PureModelsOnly

Will people really pay markup prices for what essentially is a M2 that's had the leftover parts bin from the F8X thrown at it?

it's only money.
I could throw grapes but they wouldnt appreciate that.
It cant be all markup... I mean carbon fiber had to cost at least hundred(s) of dollars.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by David1

Will we be able to get leather? That cloth feels like sandpaper to me.

You think? I would love to get the cloth.

[Fenerbahce]

Originally Posted by jmg

I'm really surprised the M2C didn't already come with the M Seats with the cutout. It's been in the M3/4 ZCP for years now. It's almost harder to find them without the cutouts.

And thank goodness it didn’t. Perhaps I’m getting old, but I need the lumbar support. If you look in the F80/82 forums, you see people with low back pain trying to improvise all sorts of pillows and cushions to make up for it. The holes certainly look cool, but they are not practical. Perhaps they suit a CS/CSL, but I’m surprised BMW made that compromise for the F80/F82 ZHP.