Bad News for the Tuning Community?

///MPECABL · 01-21-2023, 08:38 PM

Do you know if/how similar this is for G20’s? I have a buddy who lives close by that has a 2021 G20 and he and I have been talking about how he’s unable to do much so he is JB4 currently. He asked if any fo the recent F-series unlock might work on G20.

You know I’m interested already, but I want to get my exhaust situation fixed up first before I consider it.

Enabled · 01-23-2023, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ///MPECABL

Do you know if/how similar this is for G20’s? I have a buddy who lives close by that has a 2021 G20 and he and I have been talking about how he’s unable to do much so he is JB4 currently. He asked if any fo the recent F-series unlock might work on G20.

You know I’m interested already, but I want to get my exhaust situation fixed up first before I consider it.

The new G chassis cars use the next generation of ECU, the Bosch MG1. Currently the only way to have OBD flashing for 06/2020+ MG1 is to get it unlocked by Femto, which requires sending out the ECU to Finland.
Since the ECU is so different than the MEVD17 generation (what F87 has), none of the methods cross over.

Boba1214 · 01-31-2023, 05:06 PM

Hi guys, does this mean piggybacks such as JB4 will continue to be unaffected by this? I have a 2021 mfg M2C and wanted to see if I can get the JB4.

MyM2See · 01-31-2023, 10:01 PM

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For cars <06/2020, I may have a method that can do the OBD unlock in car through a special process, but I'd have to send out my toolkit, which I'm a little reserved about. I'm looking to offer this in a very limited manner. Otherwise it's bench flash with DME out.

For cars >06/2020, it's DME out/bench flash only for OBD unlocks. And I confirm my method works well to do subsequent flashing with a variety of the OBD flashing tools.

Mine is 6/2019. I'd be willing to try this out if you're open to it at some point. We can connect and discuss one day

Enabled · 02-01-2023, 03:47 PM

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Mine is 6/2019. I'd be willing to try this out if you're open to it at some point. We can connect and discuss one day

Yes, send me a PM and we'll discuss! I've sent it out to a couple people and it's worked fine.

///MPECABL · 02-02-2023, 08:49 AM

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Yes, send me a PM and we'll discuss! I've sent it out to a couple people and it's worked fine.

I assume it’s still an issue that most tuners done have tubes that directly address the M2CS or will they just adapt to the same tuning inputs as the same powertrain in the M3/4 competition?

Enabled · 02-02-2023, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ///MPECABL

I assume it’s still an issue that most tuners done have tubes that directly address the M2CS or will they just adapt to the same tuning inputs as the same powertrain in the M3/4 competition?

They may really adapt the same, but it hardly matters. There are nearly no differences between the two. I've tuned both versions.

There are like 3-4 maps with significant differences in M2CS vs. M2C, which simply bump up the power request after 5000rpm; another map that switches the burble sound off via flash settings (vs. the temporary method that can be done via apps or other programs like tool32).

bitcore · 02-04-2023, 02:02 PM

Oh Enabled, I'm so stoked to hear this!

Enabled · 02-13-2023, 03:40 PM

I've done a few now on a limited basis and it's working out pretty well

esoj37 · 02-28-2023, 07:36 PM

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I've done a few now on a limited basis and it's working out pretty well

That's awesome!

WeekendWarriorz · 03-11-2023, 01:24 PM

Saw this:

Did some additional research and it seems like 06/20+ DME’s have been added to Alientech Kess3 unlock tools for all tuners.

medphysdave · 03-12-2023, 09:04 AM

Well that's fun. Definitely a fan of adjustable torque per gear.

Reddevils7 · 03-14-2023, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by WeekendWarriorz

Saw this:

Did some additional research and it seems like 06/20+ DME’s have been added to Alientech Kess3 unlock tools for all tuners.

Are they completely removing the DME to achieve this? Or just flipping over the intercooler and plugging into the DME without full removal? I asked auto couture about the unlock. They told me they weren't even aware this method was out yet

WeekendWarriorz · 03-15-2023, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Reddevils7

Are they completely removing the DME to achieve this? Or just flipping over the intercooler and plugging into the DME without full removal? I asked auto couture about the unlock. They told me they weren't even aware this method was out yet

I’m not sure! I’m sure enabled or someone of more knowledge has the answer. Just a matter of time until someone solves the G8X/Supra ecu and the FraudEMTO unlocks come to an end

Track/S · 03-15-2023, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Reddevils7

Are they completely removing the DME to achieve this? Or just flipping over the intercooler and plugging into the DME without full removal? I asked auto couture about the unlock. They told me they weren't even aware this method was out yet

Just flipping over the tmic.

swcc50 · 03-25-2023, 08:52 PM

Enabled shoot me a DM when you can. I’m in Dallas and would be down to meet up for a bench unlock test

Enabled · 03-26-2023, 03:59 PM

Got your messages! I've done many of these now, it's no longer a test. I took it a step further than most and can allow OBD tuning after the unlocking with any of the usual apps people like to use.

It still needs to be done on bench, so shipping me the DME is ideal. I can do it on car too, but I would require the car for a bit and no hot engines.

Reddevils7 · 03-27-2023, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Enabled

Got your messages! I've done many of these now, it's no longer a test. I took it a step further than most and can allow OBD tuning after the unlocking with any of the usual apps people like to use.

It still needs to be done on bench, so shipping me the DME is ideal. I can do it on car too, but I would require the car for a bit and no hot engines.

Enabled

I remember you saying you were working on a tool we could just plug into the DME and remotely do the bench unlock like you were doing for the pre 06/20 bench unlocks. This way it doesn't have to be completely removed from the tmic. Any head way on that? I'd be willing to give you a deposit if you were willing to ship out the tool and overnight it back to you once we're done.

M2_MEDUSA · 04-02-2023, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Track/S

Just flipping over the tmic.

Enabled · 04-04-2023, 01:53 PM

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I remember you saying you were working on a tool we could just plug into the DME and remotely do the bench unlock like you were doing for the pre 06/20 bench unlocks. This way it doesn't have to be completely removed from the tmic. Any head way on that? I'd be willing to give you a deposit if you were willing to ship out the tool and overnight it back to you once we're done.

No headway there yet! I haven't found a way that can be reasonably justified to ship equipment out unfortunately.

01-21-2023, 08:38 PM	#639
///MPECABL Second Lieutenant 583 Rep 278 Posts Drives: 2020 M2CS Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	Do you know if/how similar this is for G20’s? I have a buddy who lives close by that has a 2021 G20 and he and I have been talking about how he’s unable to do much so he is JB4 currently. He asked if any fo the recent F-series unlock might work on G20. You know I’m interested already, but I want to get my exhaust situation fixed up first before I consider it. __________________ 2020 M2 CS - Misano Blue, DCT, CCB
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01-31-2023, 05:06 PM	#641
Boba1214 Private 13 Rep 60 Posts Drives: M2 Competition Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: LA iTrader: (0)	Hi guys, does this mean piggybacks such as JB4 will continue to be unaffected by this? I have a 2021 mfg M2C and wanted to see if I can get the JB4.
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02-04-2023, 02:02 PM	#646
bitcore Second Lieutenant 107 Rep 215 Posts Drives: F87 BSM Manual M2 Comp Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (0)	Oh Enabled, I'm so stoked to hear this!
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WeekendWarriorz Captain 670 Rep 754 Posts Drives: 2006 Z4M Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Anaheim Hills, CA iTrader: (4)	Saw this: Did some additional research and it seems like 06/20+ DME’s have been added to Alientech Kess3 unlock tools for all tuners. __________________ 2006 Z4 M Roadster Black/Imola Red, FBO VF-Engineering, e85 Flex Fuel-Sold 2012 BMW 135i N55 DCT Alpine White/Coral Red, FBO, TBI, Full e85, JB4 BEF-Sold 2006 Z4 M Roadster Black/Black-Sold 2021 M2 Competition DCT Hockenheim Silver
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swcc50 Captain 193 Rep 917 Posts Drives: 2020 M2CS 6MT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dallas iTrader: (5) Garage List 2020 BMW M2CS [0.00]	Enabled shoot me a DM when you can. I’m in Dallas and would be down to meet up for a bench unlock test __________________ 2021 M2CS
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03-26-2023, 03:59 PM	#655
Enabled Lieutenant Colonel 1410 Rep 1,802 Posts Drives: 328xd Wagon, M2 Competition Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Houston iTrader: (0)	Got your messages! I've done many of these now, it's no longer a test. I took it a step further than most and can allow OBD tuning after the unlocking with any of the usual apps people like to use. It still needs to be done on bench, so shipping me the DME is ideal. I can do it on car too, but I would require the car for a bit and no hot engines. __________________ -2014 328d Wagon, 8HP. Self-tuned, 270hp/430ft-lbs. -2019 M2 Competition MT, Alpine White. Self-tuned 560hp -2016 Mini Cooper S, MT. Many plans. Others: -E36 328is. 2000 Z3 Roady. 2003 VW Jetta TDI Manual. Estoril Z3M Coupe. Last edited by Enabled; 03-26-2023 at 04:09 PM..
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