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      05-23-2018, 08:35 PM   #45
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A 62k vehicle @ 60 months (3.99%) with added tax, you're looking at an estimated $1,200 month payment... Not counting unknown mark-ups..
BMW Financial will do 1.9%. That's what I was offered 2 moths ago on an M2.
Sale price isn't the only aspect that's negotiable.
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A 62k vehicle @ 60 months (3.99%) with added tax, you're looking at an estimated $1,200 month payment... Not counting unknown mark-ups..
BMW Financial will do 1.9%. That's what I was offered 2 moths ago on an M2.
Sale price isn't the only aspect that's negotiable.
I believe you; I learned recently that the promotions varies by region but over in the east cost, the best they offer right now is 3.99% for a minimum 680 and above FICO Auto score and they hold firm on that.
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A 62k vehicle @ 60 months (3.99%) with added tax, you're looking at an estimated $1,200 month payment... Not counting unknown mark-ups..
BMW Financial will do 1.9%. That's what I was offered 2 moths ago on an M2.
Sale price isn't the only aspect that's negotiable.
I believe you; I learned recently that the promotions varies by region but over in the east cost, the best they offer right now is 3.99% for a minimum 680 and above FICO Auto score and they hold firm on that.
Interesting. I'm on the East Coast (Boston).
I know incentives also change month-to-month.
Maybe it's simply a difference between what they offered in April (it may have been late March?) and May.
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A 62k vehicle @ 60 months (3.99%) with added tax, you're looking at an estimated $1,200 month payment... Not counting unknown mark-ups..
BMW Financial will do 1.9%. That's what I was offered 2 moths ago on an M2.
Sale price isn't the only aspect that's negotiable.
I believe you; I learned recently that the promotions varies by region but over in the east cost, the best they offer right now is 3.99% for a minimum 680 and above FICO Auto score and they hold firm on that.
Interesting. I'm on the East Coast (Boston).
I know incentives also change month-to-month.
Maybe it's simply a difference between what they offered in April (it may have been late March?) and May.

Check this out from last month.. The promotional rates are not loading now on BMWs site..


Financing Options https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1484577
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A 62k vehicle @ 60 months (3.99%) with added tax, you're looking at an estimated $1,200 month payment... Not counting unknown mark-ups..
BMW Financial will do 1.9%. That's what I was offered 2 moths ago on an M2.
Sale price isn't the only aspect that's negotiable.
I believe you; I learned recently that the promotions varies by region but over in the east cost, the best they offer right now is 3.99% for a minimum 680 and above FICO Auto score and they hold firm on that.
Interesting. I'm on the East Coast (Boston).
I know incentives also change month-to-month.
Maybe it's simply a difference between what they offered in April (it may have been late March?) and May.

Check this out from last month.. The promotional rates are not loading now on BMWs site..


Financing Options https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1484577
Well that confirms a lot of variability.
In my experience, interest rates are negotiable even when BMW corporate tells you they aren't, IF the dealer is motivated to sell.

What they post on their website is no different than the prices posted: M Suggested RP.

But this is derailing the thread.
Let's get back to posting dealers who aren't trying to line their pockets at our expense!
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Looking for advice in the SoCal area. I got a bad vibe from Century West.

Center BMW seemed ok and they are super close to my house but they had practically no inventory.

Beverly hills seems to have a ton of inventory but I have no idea what to expect.

I plan on buying from Long Beach if they sell at MSRP.

Anyone have any feedback on previous experience ?
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Do you have to buy in California? Why can't you buy from an out of state dealer that sells at MSRP? I guess if you have to buy local, that takes options away. I have not bought from a local BMW dealer for a long time. Houston BMW dealers are trash, with the exception of maybe one now. I've consistently received 3-5% lower prices not buying from my local dealers.
If you buy out of state you have to consider cost of getting the car to you. What is the cost to transport the car to you, what is the cost of flying to get the car. Does it mess with your plans to get clear bra on the car immediately? Cost of gas and wear and tear on the car on the way back.

It's also possible an MSRP car in another state has options you don't want and are paying for at MSRP (m performance package) and a local with mark up doesn't have that.


Factoring that all in a local markup might be cheaper for you than you an MSRP car you have to get back to where you live. Obviously not the case at 5k+ markup though.
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Huge shout out to Tom Bush BMW/Mini/Mazda in Jax, FL. They never mark anything above MSRP and have been nothing but stellar in all my dealings with them. They allow euro delivery on the hot new models also!
Oh they decode VDL for you at no cost, how nice.
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As exciting as an S55 powered M2 is, I would never pay MSRP for a car at this level.
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Don't forget your taxes folks, seen too many people put minimal down and finance the rest...which leaves the high monthly.

Everyone is in a different financial position.

My main guy and Beverly hills still has no info on the Comp.
But confirmed MSRP on all vehicles.
I heard they were good to buy from actually because they are such a high volume M dealership they move through their list pretty quick.
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Looking for advice in the SoCal area. I got a bad vibe from Century West.

Center BMW seemed ok and they are super close to my house but they had practically no inventory.

Beverly hills seems to have a ton of inventory but I have no idea what to expect.

I plan on buying from Long Beach if they sell at MSRP.

Anyone have any feedback on previous experience ?
Century West is famous for their marked up cars. They had M2s marked up by like 40-50k or something like that when most dealers were at or getting to MSRP.
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As exciting as an S55 powered M2 is, I would never pay MSRP for a car at this level.
My limit is MSRP, anything above is a deal breaker and I'm going to the m3 comp. I hope dealers try to understand that this is the entry M car not an M4 GTS
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As exciting as an S55 powered M2 is, I would never pay MSRP for a car at this level.
I don't buy a car for what it is. I buy for what it will be. A few 1000$ in aftermarket parts and flash tune....you have a finely crafted 550hp sports coupe that drives like a dream and draws attention everywhere. Is there a sub 70k car made elsewhere that looks and drives and feels so good? Not IMHO
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Century West is famous for their marked up cars. They had M2s marked up by like 40-50k or something like that when most dealers were at or getting to MSRP.
I was there twice and I couldn't stand the salesmen, they knew literally nothing about the cars they were selling. I clearly told him what I wanted and he kept telling me how they're the biggest used car dealer in the country and I should buy a used car instead...I promptly left after test driving the m3
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Richmond BMW - My sales manager told me they have 1 available allocation spot PM if anyone wants to know more
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As exciting as an S55 powered M2 is, I would never pay MSRP for a car at this level.
I don't buy a car for what it is. I buy for what it will be. A few 1000$ in aftermarket parts and flash tune....you have a finely crafted 550hp sports coupe that drives like a dream and draws attention everywhere. Is there a sub 70k car made elsewhere that looks and drives and feels so good? Not IMHO
I hear you. I love my M3 but at the end of the day this is still a car and will depreciate like most if not all new cars. And it's not even a super rare collectors item car at that. It's an M3 in a smaller (but maybe heavier?) Package. It can still be everything you note and you should still be able to negotiate a few $k off. Just my opinion.
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put my deposit down today

Put my deposit at Leith BMW in Raleigh NC @ MSRP. Other dealers also giving at MSRP - Southpoint BMW, Durham NC, Northlake BMW @ Charlotte
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Weatherford BMW in Berkeley, CA asking $10K over MSRP. Do not buy there!
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Looking for advice in the SoCal area. I got a bad vibe from Century West.

Center BMW seemed ok and they are super close to my house but they had practically no inventory.

Beverly hills seems to have a ton of inventory but I have no idea what to expect.

I plan on buying from Long Beach if they sell at MSRP.

Anyone have any feedback on previous experience ?
So no idea on M2C but for my M2 LCI Long Beach was adamant about MSRP. Doesn't look like my Sales advisor is there anymore but start with the fleet person.
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Weatherford BMW in Berkeley, CA asking $10K over MSRP. Do not buy there!
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So no idea on M2C but for my M2 LCI Long Beach was adamant about MSRP. Doesn't look like my Sales advisor is there anymore but start with the fleet person.
Cool thanks, I have a lot of faith in my SA so hopefully I can close with them but you just never know.

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