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      06-24-2016, 03:32 PM   #23
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For the M2 it would be:

- New high-res screen

- New button layout on the controller

- New 5.0 software
I believe the processor and the RAM are upgraded as well.
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      06-24-2016, 04:21 PM   #24
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FYI for Canada, no iDrive 5.0 in the MY17 cars built in July, they will start with the ones in August.

Reason given to a fellow forum member was shortage in supply.
No iDrive 5.0 for MY17 Canadian Models as stated by official communication from BMW Canada.
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      06-24-2016, 04:45 PM   #25
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No iDrive 5.0 for MY17 Canadian Models as stated by official communication from BMW Canada.
I have seen this as well, at the time I thought it made sense if the US wasn't getting it neither were we. But it makes almost no sense to have it on the US models and not the Canadian ones. Even if they have a surplus of old parts switching back and forth on the production line would eat up the cost savings in no time at all. And if they have a shortage of new parts, we are only a drop in the bucket of their production needs.

Of course, that all goes back to how much BMW Canada knows what is going on. So far the answer has been a firm 'not much'. I would probably take the scientific wild-assed guesses on this forum over the official BMW Canada info at this point.
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      06-24-2016, 04:56 PM   #26
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No iDrive 5.0 for MY17 Canadian Models as stated by official communication from BMW Canada.
I have seen this as well, at the time I thought it made sense if the US wasn't getting it neither were we. But it makes almost no sense to have it on the US models and not the Canadian ones. Even if they have a surplus of old parts switching back and forth on the production line would eat up the cost savings in no time at all. And if they have a shortage of new parts, we are only a drop in the bucket of their production needs.

Of course, that all goes back to how much BMW Canada knows what is going on. So far the answer has been a firm 'not much'. I would probably take the scientific wild-assed guesses on this forum over the official BMW Canada info at this point.
Nothing makes sense in Canada on the M2 anyways!
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      06-24-2016, 05:01 PM   #27
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Nothing makes sense in Canada on the M2 anyways!
I've spoken to a couple dealers in my area and all of them believe MY17s will have the new idrive. i'm hoping the communication you were presented was inaccurate but wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't
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      06-24-2016, 05:08 PM   #28
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I've spoken to a couple dealers in my area and all of them believe MY17s will have the new idrive. i'm hoping the communication you were presented was inaccurate but wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't
Don't ask a dealer about included features in future production cars. Ask the people that produce the car.
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You can see the iDrive 5.0 w/touchpad and gestures (only available in certain models) in this video.

This just might be the answer to the lack of skip buttons on the steering wheel. Drives me absolutely nuts that you need to reach to the console and that stupid scroll wheel is annoying. If you're able to setup gestures to skip tracks that would be amazing!
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Looks like the two finger gesture is customizable and can be used to skip a track. WIN

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Looks like the two finger gesture is customizable and can be used to skip a track. WIN

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Again, just to be clear, touchscreen and motion gesture is only for the 5 Series and up. So even when the M2 gets iDrive 5.0, it will not have those features.
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Again, just to be clear, touchscreen and motion gesture is only for the 5 Series and up. So even when the M2 gets iDrive 5.0, it will not have those features.

Awww dang, missed that part.
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No iDrive 5.0 for MY17 Canadian Models as stated by official communication from BMW Canada.
Heard same thing today aswell when I asked if There was any truth in that cars produced after July would have idrive 5 (in Canada). Said all of MY17 SOL.
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As far as I know all BMW models in total that have pro Nav will be getting their iDrive 5 from July 2016 builds.

Answer is the same on the F80/2/3 boards F30/1/2/3/ egc
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No iDrive 5.0 for MY17 Canadian Models as stated by official communication from BMW Canada.
Heard same thing today aswell when I asked if There was any truth in that cars produced after July would have idrive 5 (in Canada). Said all of MY17 SOL.
SOL????
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No iDrive 5.0 for MY17 Canadian Models as stated by official communication from BMW Canada.
Heard same thing today aswell when I asked if There was any truth in that cars produced after July would have idrive 5 (in Canada). Said all of MY17 SOL.
SOL????
So Outta Luck ?
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      06-25-2016, 04:19 PM   #38
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Looks like Mirrorlink might be available? https://www.drive2.ru/l/10240486/
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How does WIFI hotspot work, who pays for the service/data? Is it 3G, 4G?
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Looks like Mirrorlink might be available? https://www.drive2.ru/l/10240486/
This looks like an alternative to CarPlay... how does it work and will it be available on iD 5.0?

Thus far, i have 2 BMW geniuses, and my SA (Sales Manager) confirming iD 5.0 for July production M2.
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      06-28-2016, 12:00 PM   #41
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This looks like an alternative to CarPlay... how does it work and will it be available on iD 5.0?

Thus far, i have 2 BMW geniuses, and my SA (Sales Manager) confirming iD 5.0 for July production M2.
It's in iDrive 5.0 as Multimedia->Screencast for english language versions.
It works by using wifi direct or miracast equivalent. It's not application specific, but rather simply mirrors and scales your phone's display to the iDrive's display. I'd imagine audio is included as well. There are a few 3rd party solutions for this feature already, but good to see it finally integrated natively without hacking required.

Basically any app on your phone is now visible on iDrive. Not sure if touchpad can serve as a mouse.
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It's in iDrive 5.0 as Multimedia->Screencast for english language versions.
It works by using wifi direct or miracast equivalent. It's not application specific, but rather simply mirrors and scales your phone's display to the iDrive's display. I'd imagine audio is included as well. There are a few 3rd party solutions for this feature already, but good to see it finally integrated natively without hacking required.

Basically any app on your phone is now visible on iDrive. Not sure if touchpad can serve as a mouse.
This is slick, hadn't seen it before. Any idea if it will work with the MY16 cars?
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This is slick, hadn't seen it before. Any idea if it will work with the MY16 cars?
My understanding is that when a car is built, the firmware is configured with crap like build date and feature license codes FSC that enable services like Nav map updates and connected drive. The i-level updates, which contain both old and new iDrive software, also contain logic that checks the build date and verifies these codes. In order for iDrive 5.0 software to work properly on MY16 hardware (NBT EVO):
1) the firmware would have to be updated with a modified build date or the i-level would need special logic to allow older build dates to enable it.
2) you'd have to obtain new FSCs from BMW which are expensive. As of 5.0 there is a new FSC scheme so old codes don't work.

It is doubtful that BMW would perform this software retrofit on any of their models, due to the PITA involved. It would set a new precedent for feature upgrades. It also would make buying a new car somewhat less compelling.

Someone or some company may provide a way to do it, however. If so, it'll prob be available before August.
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Been reading through most of the threads here as I'm new to the forum.
Just to clarify, everyone is talking about July and previous MY2017 M2's correct? Speculating if it can be retrofitted?

Probably was already covered, but I ordered my M2 MY2017 last Monday and the telephony option for $750 CAD included Apple Carplay specifically. Not sure if everyone already knows that or not. Old news to everyone?

And from some of the posts, Carplay requires iDrive 5.0?

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