Exhaust Sound Clip Request

f80_MG · 11-06-2020, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kepler

Really? Wow, that is very good news. How do you know?

I apologize, I should clarify that I do not know first hand since we don't have US cars yet. This is just from marketing material and the demo car from the LA show.

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Originally Posted by kepler

Would adding port install MPE remove the "udder"? And would I just contact my dealer and request this?

Yes, the dealer should be able to take care of this. With that said, I've encountered enough ignorant SA's, so the BMW genius hotline might be another way to try.

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Originally Posted by sdhotwn

Interesting, thanks! Pretty different price than just the M2 MPE from getbmwparts.com plus tips.

https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...em-18302412432

That one I believe is only for the OG M2. The one for the M2 Comp/S55 is $5303 (link below - 4168 exhaust and 1135 tips) so not terribly different. I have seen this drop down to the 4700 range in the past. They don't have M2 CS in the getbmwparts yet so I cannot confirm if this is indeed the same part for both cars.

https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...MtMGwtbDYtZ2Fz

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Originally Posted by thxbuff2001

I like the stock tips of cs. Its similar to my e39 m5.
Ill probably do a delete on the CS to remove that rear belly. That exhaust hump reminds me of the milk breast of cows.

I do like the stock tips of the CS, much better than the thick walled tips of the M2/M2C, but, yeah, to your point I have no idea what they were thinking with the shape of the OEM exhaust. I'm not a fan of the exhaust height either on the M2 although on the 2020 M2C's it seems closer to the body and not hanging low like it's missing a bracket.

thxbuff2001 · 11-06-2020, 09:43 AM

I do like the stock tips of the CS, much better than the thick walled tips of the M2/M2C, but, yeah, to your point I have no idea what they were thinking with the shape of the OEM exhaust. I'm not a fan of the exhaust height either on the M2 although on the 2020 M2C's it seems closer to the body and not hanging low like it's missing a bracket.[/QUOTE]

Will it be too much to cover that exhaust? Talk about ugly american cars, but that rear end is BUTT Ugly.

Dont see the exhaust on an m3/4/5/8?

f80_MG · 11-06-2020, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by thxbuff2001

I do like the stock tips of the CS, much better than the thick walled tips of the M2/M2C, but, yeah, to your point I have no idea what they were thinking with the shape of the OEM exhaust. I'm not a fan of the exhaust height either on the M2 although on the 2020 M2C's it seems closer to the body and not hanging low like it's missing a bracket.

Will it be too much to cover that exhaust? Talk about ugly american cars, but that rear end is BUTT Ugly.

Dont see the exhaust on an m3/4/5/8?

Lol, yeah, I've tried to find a reason for why the M2's exhaust hangs the way it does and haven't found the real technical/design reason. So unless someone can put me in touch with one of the engineers who worked on the car, I have given up on finding the reason behind it.

The MPE +/- a good rear diffuser does fix the problem, albeit a very expensive option.

BMrDrmr · 11-06-2020, 01:20 PM

While I'd love to say you all are over-reacting to the exhaust look from the rear of the car.. I feel kinda concerned too since that's all anyone will ever see on mine!

medphysdave · 11-06-2020, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BMrDrmr

While I'd love to say you all are over-reacting to the exhaust look from the rear of the car.. I feel kinda concerned too since that's all anyone will ever see on mine!

It looks terrible. I'm just not sure if it's worth 5k to change. Especially without hearing it for a while. The last thing I want is an annoying drone in the cabin.

bdogk · 11-06-2020, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by medphysdave

It looks terrible. I'm just not sure if it's worth 5k to change. Especially without hearing it for a while. The last thing I want is an annoying drone in the cabin.

I just removed the AA mid-pipe on my current Comp. Hopefully it will fit on my incoming CS.

Also, I sprayed the muffler on the Comp with high-temp BBQ matt black paint and it held up very well. Will definitely do same on CS.

f80_MG · 11-06-2020, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BMrDrmr

While I'd love to say you all are over-reacting to the exhaust look from the rear of the car.. I feel kinda concerned too since that's all anyone will ever see on mine!

BishUK · 11-06-2020, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by f80_MG

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Originally Posted by thxbuff2001

I do like the stock tips of the CS, much better than the thick walled tips of the M2/M2C, but, yeah, to your point I have no idea what they were thinking with the shape of the OEM exhaust. I'm not a fan of the exhaust height either on the M2 although on the 2020 M2C's it seems closer to the body and not hanging low like it's missing a bracket.

Will it be too much to cover that exhaust? Talk about ugly american cars, but that rear end is BUTT Ugly.

Dont see the exhaust on an m3/4/5/8?

Lol, yeah, I've tried to find a reason for why the M2's exhaust hangs the way it does and haven't found the real technical/design reason. So unless someone can put me in touch with one of the engineers who worked on the car, I have given up on finding the reason behind it.

The MPE +/- a good rear diffuser does fix the problem, albeit a very expensive option.

I'd read the odd muffler positioning is due to crash test safety passing.

smknjoe · 11-06-2020, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f80_MG

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepler

Really? Wow, that is very good news. How do you know?

I apologize, I should clarify that I do not know first hand since we don't have US cars yet. This is just from marketing material and the demo car from the LA show.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepler

Would adding port install MPE remove the "udder"? And would I just contact my dealer and request this?

Yes, the dealer should be able to take care of this. With that said, I've encountered enough ignorant SA's, so the BMW genius hotline might be another way to try.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdhotwn

Interesting, thanks! Pretty different price than just the M2 MPE from getbmwparts.com plus tips.

https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...em-18302412432

That one I believe is only for the OG M2. The one for the M2 Comp/S55 is $5303 (link below - 4168 exhaust and 1135 tips) so not terribly different. I have seen this drop down to the 4700 range in the past. They don't have M2 CS in the getbmwparts yet so I cannot confirm if this is indeed the same part for both cars.

https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...MtMGwtbDYtZ2Fz

Quote:

Originally Posted by thxbuff2001

I like the stock tips of cs. Its similar to my e39 m5.
Ill probably do a delete on the CS to remove that rear belly. That exhaust hump reminds me of the milk breast of cows.

I do like the stock tips of the CS, much better than the thick walled tips of the M2/M2C, but, yeah, to your point I have no idea what they were thinking with the shape of the OEM exhaust. I'm not a fan of the exhaust height either on the M2 although on the 2020 M2C's it seems closer to the body and not hanging low like it's missing a bracket.

From what I've read BMW has historically designed these to improve aerodynamics in conjunction with the underbody panels.

I have no idea if that's actually true.

medphysdave · 11-06-2020, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by smknjoe

From what I've read BMW has historically designed these to improve aerodynamics in conjunction with the underbody panels.

I have no idea if that's actually true.

I'm sure there is a two birds with one stone mentality going on here, but damn.

WoodKnuckle · 11-06-2020, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by f80_MG

Yeah,I'm hoping some owners who've already taken delivery can answer that.
The stock CS exhaust does look nice, I think those tips are one piece with the exhaust (different from the OG or M2C where the tips sit on the exhaust.

Your correct, the tips on the CS exhaust are apart of the full exhaust, they are not sleeves.

I had an M3CS and it has the same exhaust setup as the M2CS.

///AVM · 11-06-2020, 08:22 PM

The stock M2C exhaust acoustics are more than adequate.

Since the M2CS exhaust is the same as the Competition exhaust, well, I am sure it sounds just fine too.

Still, I thought what the hell, and got the MPE. Surprised I could not find much by way of M2C owners with MPE, which is most likely related to the hefty cost. . . at any rate, I feel the price was worth it. What was good is now better.

You do not have to get the VERY expensive CF tips with MPE . . . and might prefer the non-CF tips if you like the bare CS exhaust tips?

I am in the apparent minority, but I really like the M2C exhaust ‘udder’ look. MPE is not as wide, but an udder, nonetheless.

On the mod front . . . I HATED the larger fender-to-tire gaps on my M2C . . . sorry, but the same problem persists with the CS. The MP Coil overs were obtained as a purely aesthetic pursuit but proved to offer ride/handling benefit. Not sure how the latter would play out with the adaptive suspension in the CS, but no doubt the fender-to-tire gaps would be addressed if compatible with MP coil overs.

///AVM

ryem3 · 11-06-2020, 09:19 PM

Ignorant question maybe, does the M2cs have the M exhaust? Or did they just change the tips? Of course it has a different tune, so it may well sound different even with the same exhaust. I have a Dinan exhaust on my M2C and I'll be taking it off. Wonder if it will make sense to bolt it on the CS. Same motor, I'm sure the piping is the same.

medphysdave · 11-06-2020, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ///AVM

The stock M2C exhaust acoustics are more than adequate.

Since the M2CS exhaust is the same as the Competition exhaust, well, I am sure it sounds just fine too.

Still, I thought what the hell, and got the MPE. Surprised I could not find much by way of M2C owners with MPE, which is most likely related to the hefty cost. . . at any rate, I feel the price was worth it. What was good is now better.

You do not have to get the VERY expensive CF tips with MPE . . . and might prefer the non-CF tips if you like the bare CS exhaust tips?

I am in the apparent minority, but I really like the M2C exhaust ‘udder’ look. MPE is not as wide, but an udder, nonetheless.

On the mod front . . . I HATED the larger fender-to-tire gaps on my M2C . . . sorry, but the same problem persists with the CS. The MP Coil overs were obtained as a purely aesthetic pursuit but proved to offer ride/handling benefit. Not sure how the latter would play out with the adaptive suspension in the CS, but no doubt the fender-to-tire gaps would be addressed if compatible with MP coil overs.

///AVM

I think it looks good. The stock exhaust has a weird shape and cheap look to it. I think that's the big problem. Does the MPE incorporate an equal length setup? The EL mid pipe seems to do a lot for sound improvement. I like the F1 style howl vs the deep tone exhaust. Not sure where the mpe falls in this category?

F87EVO · 11-06-2020, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thxbuff2001

I like the stock tips of cs. Its similar to my e39 m5.
Ill probably do a delete on the CS to remove that rear belly. That exhaust hump reminds me of the milk breast of cows.

I have the same problem .. i love those simple tips on the CS .. and dont want to change the rear muffler , instead i will install the AA midpipe as soon as i figure how to turn the opf off !

cncmastr · 11-07-2020, 05:31 AM

@avm post a video clip brother of the MPE on the CS!

medphysdave · 11-07-2020, 08:38 AM

I as well like the stock tips on the CS. Would be a shame to replace.

medphysdave · 11-07-2020, 08:40 AM

Question:. Why hasn't bmw considered an equal length solution for sound? Seems well within their scope.

medphysdave · 11-07-2020, 12:55 PM

Anyone with Capristo exhaust?

BMrDrmr · 11-07-2020, 04:56 PM

Found this and enjoyed it,not sure if anyone else postedit..

smknjoe · 11-07-2020, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by f80_MG

Hi, big ask, but would any of the owners who've taken delivery be able to take a quick clip of what the stock CS exhaust sounds like, inside the car/outside?
I understand some countries have the OPF but not sure of other countries where it's been delivered and would be great to get an idea.

Trying to decide between leaving the stock exhaust on for a while or the MPE and cannot find any good video/audio data on the internet.

Thank you.

For the US I'm pretty sure it's exactly the same as the M2C besides the tips.

All the clips I've heard, even with OPF, sound like a stock M2C to me.

///AVM · 11-07-2020, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by medphysdave

I think it looks good. The stock exhaust has a weird shape and cheap look to it. I think that's the big problem. Does the MPE incorporate an equal length setup? The EL mid pipe seems to do a lot for sound improvement. I like the F1 style howl vs the deep tone exhaust. Not sure where the mpe falls in this category?

Dave

I understand that most are not fans of the M2C muffler . . . I personally really like the look.

Is the MPE an improvement? I guess the answer is very subjective, but hopefully my photos offer a basis to draw individual opinion.

Sorry, but no idea regarding the equal length mid-pipe question.

F1 howl vs deep tone . . . honestly, not sure???

///AVM

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///AVM Banned 2530 Rep 1,908 Posts Drives: G80 M3C Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: U.S.A. iTrader: (0)	The stock M2C exhaust acoustics are more than adequate. Since the M2CS exhaust is the same as the Competition exhaust, well, I am sure it sounds just fine too. Still, I thought what the hell, and got the MPE. Surprised I could not find much by way of M2C owners with MPE, which is most likely related to the hefty cost. . . at any rate, I feel the price was worth it. What was good is now better. You do not have to get the VERY expensive CF tips with MPE . . . and might prefer the non-CF tips if you like the bare CS exhaust tips? I am in the apparent minority, but I really like the M2C exhaust ‘udder’ look. MPE is not as wide, but an udder, nonetheless. On the mod front . . . I HATED the larger fender-to-tire gaps on my M2C . . . sorry, but the same problem persists with the CS. The MP Coil overs were obtained as a purely aesthetic pursuit but proved to offer ride/handling benefit. Not sure how the latter would play out with the adaptive suspension in the CS, but no doubt the fender-to-tire gaps would be addressed if compatible with MP coil overs. ///AVM Attached Images Last edited by ///AVM; 11-06-2020 at 09:07 PM..
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