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      02-25-2019, 11:50 AM   #23
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First track session I enjoyed Sport Throttle and Sport Plus Steering. I left DSC on; track was freshly paved, 40'F starting temp on Cup2's, and first session in the car. It actually let me hang the rear end out more than I expected and didn't feel like it held me back a lot.

I want to get some camber plates asap as I wore the outside edges of the front tires a decent amount.

I'm also leaning towards a TCKline Coilover setup in the future as I've had my TCK setup on my E46 M3 for over 7 years and it's been perfect.
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Great thread!
I will definitely try the traction mode at the track.
I didn't want to try it because of the comfort throttle response and steering. For the throttle response I guess I can buy one of these pedal tuners and fine tune how I like it. For the steering, I may just try comfort as you guys seem to like it on the track.
However there is something I don't like about traction mode : it increases the burbles. Any way not to have that?
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      05-20-2021, 01:13 PM   #26
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always DSC off
Fine for experienced drivers, whether that is location experience, track day experience, and/or M2C experience. But not fine for beginners.

I have run DSC off at times but mostly use MDM mode on an unfamiliar track.
That may hide a true tail out mistake but it helps avoid a big incident and doesn't seem to hamper performance, tail out nature, or control.

On a skid pad, I did find the M2C easy to learn full DSC off, but you're on your own to reign back in...

I also mostly run in sport steering (for familiarity) and sport throttle (to avoid it being to touchy).
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I use MDM and i don't notice any real limitations; and i'm sure it's helped me correct on a few turns. Once i have had the car for another year or so i'll use DSC off but for now i'm more concerned about getting the car into the dirt than i am track time.
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I have run DSC off at times but mostly use MDM mode on an unfamiliar track.
That may hide a true tail out mistake but it helps avoid a big incident and doesn't seem to hamper performance, tail out nature, or control.
There is no doubt in my mind that it does hamper performance, but it depends on a number of factors - all of which are related to traction (of course). When it triggers, it will reduce acceleration when you're accelerating over a bump in a straight line which was, to me, the most noticeable reduction in performance situation.
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There is no doubt in my mind that it does hamper performance, but it depends on a number of factors - all of which are related to traction (of course). When it triggers, it will reduce acceleration when you're accelerating over a bump in a straight line which was, to me, the most noticeable reduction in performance situation.
It is a good way to work on the smoothness of your inputs. I stayed in Sport+ at Nurburgring, but full DCT off on every other track. I would get TCS interventions at a few corners at first, but than with experience and more careful usage of my right foot I got to the point where there were no more interventions. And in the end smooth is fast.
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There is no doubt in my mind that it does hamper performance, but it depends on a number of factors - all of which are related to traction (of course). When it triggers, it will reduce acceleration when you're accelerating over a bump in a straight line which was, to me, the most noticeable reduction in performance situation.
That probably is the case but at Barber turn 4 in MDM mode, at the crest, I completely lost traction, felt no loss of power, but it probably applied a brake as I counter-steered to maintain the line.
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DSM off I notice the car pulls much harder coming out of corners. I tracked in sport+ for 3 years, noticed a big difference changing to dsm off. I like it. Wish I would have made the change a year earlier. Think it was good to initially learn in sport+.
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There is no doubt in my mind that it does hamper performance, but it depends on a number of factors - all of which are related to traction (of course). When it triggers, it will reduce acceleration when you're accelerating over a bump in a straight line which was, to me, the most noticeable reduction in performance situation.
Definitely.
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DSM off I notice the car pulls much harder coming out of corners. I tracked in sport+ for 3 years, noticed a big difference changing to dsm off. I like it. Wish I would have made the change a year earlier. Think it was good to initially learn in sport+.
Assume you mean DSC off. And a 2017-2018 OG M2?
Sport+ would be full DSC on.
A short press of the trac-off button is a traction control off/DSC limited mode.
A long press would be DSC full off. Which did you use?

Note M2 Comps allow individual sport+ settings and the DSC limited mode is called MDM allowing some oversteer before intervening.
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