[Diver]

I am sure there are folks out there who must have a 4 door, but I think an MS Grand Coupe is not in keeping with what the M2 is about.

[Law]

Interesting that the OP's render gave the GC a longer wheelbase.
This opens up speculation about whether the wheelbase will be shared or different.

Now, given that the M2 and M2 GC are hypothetically supposed to be the "same" car but with a different body style (i.e., shared basic chassis & platform), it seems that both are possible based on current BMW trends:

1) 3-series 4-door (F30) vs. 4-series 2-door (F32) vs. 4-series Gran Coupe (F36) - shared wheelbase @ 2810 mm / 110.63 in




2) M3 (F80) vs. M4 (F82) - shared wheelbase @ 2812 mm /110.7 in
**Given that the F30/F32/F36 share the same wheelbase, it is safe to assume that had there been an M4 GC, the wheelbase would also be the same as the F80/F82.




3) 6-series 2-door (F13) vs. 6-series Gran Coupe (F06) - different wheelbase



4) M6 2-door (F13) vs. M6 Gran Coupe (F06) - different wheelbase





5) 1-series 5-door (F20) vs. 1-series 3-door (F21) vs. 2-series 2-door (F22) - shared wheelbase @ 2690 mm / 105.9 in

Probably the most evident indicator is a comparison between the F20/F21 1-series (ROW market only) and the F22 2-series, which are very much the same (akin to the 3er and 4er, i.e., same car, different bodystyle/badge).
After converting the UOMs, one finds that the F2x 1-series and 2-series share a wheelbase.
Based on this, the platform sharing on the F2x is analogous to the platform sharing method used on the F3x, where the body-styles of that particular platform share the same wheelbase (sans the oddball F34 3er GT).
Of course, we don't know if BMW will diverge in the next generation, but these clues indicate a high possibility of a shared wheelbase between the 2er Coupe and the hypothetical/future 2er GC.





Thus, I would argue that had there been an M2 GC from the current generation, its wheelbase would've been shared with the M2 Coupe @ 106 inches and likewise, the wheelbase of the hypothetical 2er GC would have been shared with the 1er and 2er (as shown above).

[julienjj]

Originally Posted by Law

Interesting that the OP's render gave the GC a longer wheelbase.
This opens up speculation about whether the wheelbase will be shared or different.

Now, given that the M2 and M2 GC are hypothetically supposed to be the "same" car but with a different body style (i.e., shared basic chassis & platform), it seems that both are possible based on current BMW trends:

1) 3-series 4-door (F30) vs. 4-series 2-door (F32) vs. 4-series Gran Coupe (F36) - shared wheelbase @ 2810 mm / 110.63 in




2) M3 (F80) vs. M4 (F82) - shared wheelbase @ 2812 mm /110.7 in
**Given that the F30/F32/F36 share the same wheelbase, it is safe to assume that had there been an M4 GC, the wheelbase would also be the same as the F80/F82.




3) 6-series 2-door (F13) vs. 6-series Gran Coupe (F06) - different wheelbase



4) M6 2-door (F13) vs. M6 Gran Coupe (F06) - different wheelbase





5) 1-series 5-door (F20) vs. 1-series 3-door (F21) vs. 2-series 2-door (F22) - shared wheelbase @ 2690 mm / 105.9 in

Probably the most evident indicator is a comparison between the F20/F21 1-series (ROW market only) and the F22 2-series, which are very much the same (akin to the 3er and 4er, i.e., same car, different bodystyle/badge).
After converting the UOMs, one finds that the F2x 1-series and 2-series share a wheelbase.
Based on this, the platform sharing on the F2x is analogous to the platform sharing method used on the F3x, where the body-styles of that particular platform share the same wheelbase (sans the oddball F34 3er GT).
Of course, we don't know if BMW will diverge in the next generation, but these clues indicate a high possibility of a shared wheelbase between the 2er Coupe and the hypothetical/future 2er GC.





Thus, I would argue that had there been an M2 GC from the current generation, its wheelbase would've been shared with the M2 Coupe @ 106 inches and likewise, the wheelbase of the hypothetical 2er GC would have been shared with the 1er and 2er (as shown above).

The F10 5 series share the same wheelbase than the 6GC

The 6 is shorter because there is actually a limit on how long doors can be and still be convenient.

[Law]

Originally Posted by julienjj

The F10 5 series share the same wheelbase than the 6GC

The 6 is shorter because there is actually a limit on how long doors can be and still be convenient.

That is correct. I was going to add the F10 into the comparison but got lazy to upload the diagrams.

[ZilberGrau ZHP]

I would trade in my 435 GC for this in a heartbeat... the longer wheelbase makes this in PERFECT proportion whereas the M2 isn't long enough to resolve the lines that it has.
Im in BMW- make it happen (and include blind sport monitoring like a 17k KIA has please- that stuff ain't magic (or expensive) any more

[ZilberGrau ZHP]

Originally Posted by Diver

I am sure there are folks out there who must have a 4 door, but I think an MS Grand Coupe is not in keeping with what the M2 is about.

Technically yes- realistically though- THIS is what the M3 should be

[KevinM]

Very cool photoshops. Thanks!

[Staszek]

Wow, I like that alot, I actually like it better then the regular M2.

[omasou]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

I know it's not in BMW's plans for the current generation M2 (Autocar reported that there will be a next generation M2), but...

IMO, it would be easy to increase the wheelbase of the current M2 to make a Gran Coupe. BMW has done a long wheelbase 3 series version for the China market (which 3 series GT platform)...

Below renders with animated gif to show the difference...

The elongated body makes the car look more elegant IMO.


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Oh look at that...a modern E36...or what the 3/4 series should be.

The 2 series doesn't need to get longer the 3/4 series need to get shorter. Similar to how BMW is correcting the 6 series and reintroducing the 8 series.

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Hi All. Thanks for all your (mostly) positive comments on my renders. The main reason I've done them is to show BMW fans what could have been possible based on the M2 platform. Note that the profile view was one of my 1st photoshops and had a wheelbase a tad too long. but if the M2 wheelbase was increased just around 5cm, it would make the GC about the same wheelbase as an E46. and I'm sure there are plenty of us who find the current M3-4 too big and would be very interested in a modern E46. That was the idea behind my M2 gran coupe exercise...

[DD335i]

If they make this.


Take my money BMW!

2GC/4GC

[Mako]

Originally Posted by ///M Leardo

You know it's funny how many people think the same thing..

I love my f80... But if there was an m4 gran Coupé or maybe even this down the line I would be all over it sign me up.

Wish they would evaluate the market for these.

personally I hope the next M4 coupe is RWD and they make a M4 GC AWD, would keep the RWD diehards happy and give the 4 door family/business buyers a better all weather option.

I know they didn't make a M4GC this time around because they thought there was no business case for it (the M3 filled the role), but the M3 was mostly made to keep the M3 name in play, I think next gen they will move on and drop the M3, only have the M4 and M4GC as the options (I would think at least 90% of M3 buyers would take the M4 GC as an alternative and would probably outperform the M3 sales numbers).

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by Mako

personally I hope the next M4 coupe is RWD and they make a M4 GC AWD, would keep the RWD diehards happy and give the 4 door family/business buyers a better all weather option.

I know they didn't make a M4GC this time around because they thought there was no business case for it (the M3 filled the role), but the M3 was mostly made to keep the M3 name in play, I think next gen they will move on and drop the M3, only have the M4 and M4GC as the options (I would think at least 90% of M3 buyers would take the M4 GC as an alternative and would probably outperform the M3 sales numbers).

Good thought.

[Bosozoku]

Very nicely rendered.
But I fear BMW will say "You want a Grand Coupe? Then move up to the 4-Series, son."

[M-Pilot]

I still prefer the regular M2 Coupe.

[allthatisntnow]

. Please don't make me start to like the concept of an M2 Gran Coupe. Its just wrong. Thanks

[ynotony]

Why did you choose to make it longer? Adding two rear doors shouldn't make the car any longer. The front doors just get shorter.

This is true for the 4gc, and every 3 series sedan and coupe before it. The 2GC will be about the size of an e36 sedan, which is perfect.

[Paul-Bracq-BMW]

Originally Posted by ynotony

Why did you choose to make it longer? Adding two rear doors shouldn't make the car any longer. The front doors just get shorter.

This is true for the 4gc, and every 3 series sedan and coupe before it. The 2GC will be about the size of an e36 sedan, which is perfect.

The main reason was to make the current car better proportioned. Also, the idea was to add legroom for the rear seats and to make the wheelbase the same as the e46. Only shortening the current M2 front doors and adding rear doors wouldn't have made it look better...

[ynotony]

Originally Posted by Paul-Bracq-BMW

The main reason was to make the current car better proportioned. Also, the idea was to add legroom for the rear seats and to make the wheelbase the same as the e46. Only shortening the current M2 front doors and adding rear doors wouldn't have made it look better...

I think you stretched it far beyond an e46. The e46 wheelbase is only 1.3" longer than the F22, so the difference should be barely noticeable in your render. Less than 1% change.

I think it looks pretty good if all you do is draw in 4 doors. I did this in 5min, just moved the b-pillar and sketched in a door seam.

[BklynNYBMW]

Make mine Mediterranean Blue with Full Opal white leather interior. Give me a performance deliver and I am set

[cwhands]

Love the concept and the effort; however, the backseat in the 4 gran coupe is basically useless unless your entire family is under 5'5". I just don't get the marketing...so when I think of what a 2GC might look like

Do people jump on the gran coupe solely for looks? The lines grab my attention but what you gain vs lose? Better looks and an oversized c-pillar and lose every ounce of practical space for rear seating? I need to scrunch up in the 4 GC or my scalp is rubbing against the headliner.. maybe I'm just crazy.

I'm just a little lost at this point. "I've got back seats that can only comfortably fit my miniature poodles for insurance purposes"

The liftback GC is not at all a direct replacement for the 3 Sedan...as such the M4 GC would definitely not directly replace the M3 Sedan - at least I can pray that it won't.

[kdbryce]

God damn that is sexy