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Write a letter! There was brief talk on rrax about having a super street touring class that would include the now-excluded runners from AS and BS, including the M2, the Caymans, and the Corvettes. I'd kill to drive an M2C with -4 degrees of camber.
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I'll talk to some of the national staffs in NWR and CalClub and see what they think. a Street Touring setup M2C would be a riot to drive... should eat the caymans GTS for breakfast.
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Coming off elements in 2nd gear, the car hooks very well (RE71Rs) and as boost builds and S55 torque comes on so strongly, it is surprisingly easy to modulate rear slip angle with deft throttle adjustment. Far easier than I expected. I had a real sense of the tail of the car and how much throttle to use/take away to keep acceleration at its maximum (just enough slip but not too much, etc). From my experience with the car on the 1/2 mile wet skidpad, I didn't expect it to respond so well in this manner. So power modulation is decent, excellent in fact, and while street driving made me think it wouldn't have much lift-throttle response, on course it felt fine -- I was easily able to control front weight transfer with the throttle and manage front slip angles. Again, it exceeded my expectations. I did manage to overcook some entries on a couple of runs, and was able to easily reign in the car, albeit losing time. Steering feedback seemed good to me in that I was able to tell what was going on up front fairly well, and under major trail braking and turning, I could feel what the tires were doing ok. Overall, the car exceeded my expectations. Now whether the M2C is required to be in A-street is a different question of course. It would have been nice to have arranged with an owner of a pure stock OG M2 6MT slicktop and with the guys running O'fest autox, to do a comparison between the two cars using the same wheels/tires off my car (OZ stock width/offset wheels with RE71Rs). I might actually have been able to arrange this for a Roundel article now that I think about...it's so nice to have these great after-the-fact thoughts...
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In my opinion, the SAC failed to take into account that the M2C can't take as much tire as the F80/F82, which they moved from AS to BS. |
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In 44 years of autocrossing, I've never seen box elements like those, and my old local club had some crazy elements (like one we called the onion ring that drove most everyone bat crazy). The Michelin black lake is a great venue for an autox. All the prior ones I've been to there used most of the entire area as opposed to 75% of it. I guess "Oktoberfest" is over now for good...very strange for them to drop the annual O'fest event, especially with such high attendance this year even without a track event associated with it. Supposedly it's being replaced with a "rebranded" annual event of some type. Here's a pic of my car from the event someone took:
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I did hit a few cones on course in a few runs as I wasn't accounting for the wide rear hips of this car enough, lol. This was the first time I've autocrossed the M2C, and I'm still not sure I'm used to its width out back.
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Turn it off...you may find yourself swapping ends a few times until you get more comfortable with how the car handles, but once you learn the car, it REALLY rewards you by letting the diff work its magic, and by letting you rotate on entry and on exit and put more power down.
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The traction control *was* off. My point is, that combined with Sport+ on the throttle is a handful on low-grip surfaces. |
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I'm sorry, I thought you were indicating you put it in Sport+ mode, which doesnt ACTUALLY turn everything off, just puts the light on to let you know its interfering less...but still interfering. If you were in Sport+ mode, there are still some of the nannies there limiting you. The only way to turn it all the way off is by pressing and holding the DSC button until it states that EVERYTHING is off, and I can tell you, definitively, that is the MUCH faster than running in Sport+.
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I'm in an M2C. For autocross, I have my M2 button programmed to DSC off, throttle to Sport+ and steering to Sport+. Two taps of the button and I'm ready to play. |
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Have been hearing murmurs theres a possibility they may put the M2C in BS with the M2...so if you do national events, I may be seeing you in grid next year
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By the way, I took advice from others on the board here at the O'fest autox about TPMS resetting. Rather than risk it having issues, I started a reset as I was in grid, and it never finished fully resetting for all my 6 runs, lol. I let a ton of air out of the tires too, started with 34 all around and tried to keep them there, so I think I ended up letting about 10psi total out of the fronts in order to hold about 34psi. TPMS never had an issue (like forcing DSC to come on) through the whole event. I actually liked how well balanced the car was with a stock front swaybar and the 255/35-19, 275/35-19 RE71Rs. I have no plans to change it for now (which is something I can't recall ever feeling on any stock car I've autocrossed over the past 40+ years!).
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Not that it matters. I'll be running in our region's "run what ya brung" class next year, since the SEB won't let us play in STU. Last edited by Old Geezer; 11-13-2019 at 04:32 PM.. |
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I wrote a letter a while back for an SST class for AS/BS/SS cars to play in thats supposedly getting a reply on the next fast track. Looking forward to my "Thank you for your input"
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Interestingly, I have not found TPMS intervention to be nearly the problem it was on my pre-LCI M2, even in the summer months. Quote:
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