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Secondly, there were early marketing materials that referenced what the M2 was going to "get" and the M mirror were referenced. So the fact that they came with the "regular" 2er mirrors is another example of how BMW's literature doesn't always reflect reality. Personally, I like the style of the M mirrors, but it would never factor into a purchasing decision (we have an OG M2 LCI in the stable).
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So today tried to get on a possible waiting list for the gt4, "no chance" and "all sold out", even having already a P car, what a nightmare experience... Life goes on, lets see what the M2cs looks like... maybe will try a old gt4 but for the price i wish i had that new car delivery experience etc etc Thanks for all your input and help. Best regards |
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It's too bad a detuned version of the new 4.0L F6 isn't going to be considered. The protection of the 911 is always at the forefront of Porsche's mind and strategy, but can you imagine how good that car would be?
Maybe their best product ever...
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If it is just a tune, there will be tuners who will quickly find a way to get it back to GT3 power levels. Even if Porsche limited the redline on the 4.0L GT3 engine to about 8000 RPM, it would still be making a lot more power than 420 HP. If they limited the intake, again it would be a very easy aftermarket fix. Even with just the rumored 420 HP to 430 HP, the car should be able to keep up with cars that make significantly more power and cost quite a bit more as well. It should also be quite a bit faster than the 981 GT4 so I am not sure why you want the 4.0L if the 3.8L is able to get you what you need. If it is just so you can feel good knowing that the engine is the same as in the GT3, that's definitely not a valid reason. Now, think about it from an economical/marketing point of view. Why would Porsche spend a lot more money on fancy internals, dry sump and artificially limit it's performance. That extra cost would indirectly or directly transfer over to the customer. Instead of the car being priced under 100K $, it would now be close to 115K-120K $. At that price point, a new/young customer who wants to sample the best that the GT division has to offer will look elsewhere (Me included). Basically, what porsche is saying is that if you want the 4.0L GT3 motor, well.... Go get a GT3. Now from a GT4 racing point of view, engine overhauls on a GT3 car and cost to run it are significantly higher than the GT4 series. Porsche wants to keep these costs lower so more and more race teams opt for Porsche over it's competitors. Based on what I've read, the current GT4 Clubsport is significantly more reliable and consistent on track days than the competing ferraris and mclarens. Porsche has always been known for this. People rarely complain about heating issues and the resulting performance dip after a few laps on the circuit. It is a very capable track day car. The fact that it does not get the 4.0L engine from the GT3 does not mean that it is not a car that you can take to the track. As a matter of fact, porsche GT car owners track their car more than anybody else. Now based on someone who was invited to Weissach to try the new GT4, there is another prototype that does have a 4.0L but that car apparently is not going to be made. For all intents and purposes that car is supposed to just be a figment of imagination. |
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10-30-2018, 04:07 PM | #315 | |
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Well it's the last NA one right? So it either gets a the great NA engine they have this time, or never. So probably never. |
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10-31-2018, 02:16 PM | #316 |
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^Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
I do like the Cayman more, the 911 (wat ever series of them) have grown too big IMHO |
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Look how the rear wing is fixed The sound is far too aggressive for street standards I`m afraid |
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I have notice photos of the M2C testing new exhaust. I'm sure I have seen similar muffler, but cannot remember where exactly.
From here: https://www.autogespot.com/bmw-m2-f8...ion/2018/10/25 |
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- No aero (spoiler, diffuser, front splitter etc) - No CF roof (it has a sunroof) - No M3/M4 seats (it has OG M2 seats) - No CCB (it has 2NH brakes but in blue) - No 763M wheels (437Ms instead) |
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11-05-2018, 12:33 PM | #323 |
Luxury at the redline :)
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The fact that it's being tested on a new muffler leads to me believe that it might very well be a S58 motor..
Now if only they could confirm it's going to have manual option (doubtful) and it's my new favorite BMW |
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11-05-2018, 03:26 PM | #324 |
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Are you saying that the new S58 engine is going to be in the M2 CS? That would be awesome if true, but not sure how accurate that is since the M3/M4 CS both currently use the S55.
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11-05-2018, 03:33 PM | #325 | |
Luxury at the redline :)
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Based on that, I say it's possibly a detune version of the S58 in the M2 CS. But don't quote me.. |
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11-05-2018, 03:34 PM | #326 | |
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https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...37&postcount=4 https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=395 Last edited by akkando; 11-05-2018 at 03:49 PM.. |
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It's better to use an M2 as mule than to use an actual G80 which hasn't been developed yet and any development needs to be covered up completely.
That car easily passes as a regular M2, but may be testing M3 equipment |
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Luxury at the redline :)
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I still don't think we'll see S58 being available on the F87 chassis but even if it does show up it'll be in a rare, limited edition model. Either way it's goods news for many of us. I'll enjoy my M2C for next 3 years or so and then upgrade to S58 as long as it comes with a *manual*
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11-05-2018, 04:40 PM | #330 | |
Luxury at the redline :)
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Of course this is just conjecture until the official reveal of the motor.. |
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