We peel back the camouflage on the BMW M2 - updated in Long Beach Blue

BLK235iNJ · 08-11-2015, 10:19 PM

This thread would of been cooler with a poll/voting feature...right now all i need to do to my m235i is put a stick on side vent and this front lip and I have the m2

metrickid · 08-11-2015, 10:46 PM

I replied first in this thread but Jason removed it just to let Scott reply first... I'm not as important apparently!

It is a well done render but the lines and proportions is somewhat off and makes it look quite bad. But remember how the M4 render looked and then how the real car turned out and most people will like the real deal later on.

(I know this render is done from a more camouflaged prototype, but it illustrates the "problem")

KevinM · 08-11-2015, 11:03 PM

This post is like throwing some raw meat to pack of starving hyenas.

More, please.

csbear · 08-11-2015, 11:17 PM

Looks a little too aggressive up front as others have mentioned, like an aftermarket body kit. However, it's just a render, and I am thinking the actual M2 will be smoothed out.

YoungOG08 · 08-11-2015, 11:28 PM

Looks good specially the first pic with the big air intake size

4MULA_1 · 08-11-2015, 11:45 PM

That front bumper looks like it came off of a Toyota 4Runner

bk_g80_m3 · 08-11-2015, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

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Originally Posted by Hazey82

I hope BMW is reading this topic. Look how much negativity there is. I've said it before it looks like a an aftermarket body kit has been slapped on. It's not finished off. It's screaming for a hood dome and CF roof!! This would totally finish it off and balance it out. The way it looks now there is nothing going on above the door lines. CF roof would assist this

If no hood dome then at least CF roof! At least an option! If none of these then don't completely drop the ball and not put 1 piece M seats. Don't stuff this up BMW!

There always is negativity on everything BMW does but we have thicker skin.
But we always have to think about progress as well as further potential.

Hey I figure all the haters can enjoy looking at my tailpipes while I blow by them.

Car looks great in my opinion. I hope the haters cancel their preorders so I can get higher up on the list.

05C4R · 08-12-2015, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Yeineken

This is starting to resemble something Lexus would make.

lol I agree, if it looks like this I will keep the 1M

sycd · 08-12-2015, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Kronos

The M2 is the car that sometimes makes me think that I pulled the trigger on my 4GC too soon.

M2 for coupe and M3 for sedan are "just right".

M4 seems too bloated for a coupe, IMHO.

Chief Kronos · 08-12-2015, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sycd

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Originally Posted by Chief Kronos

The M2 is the car that sometimes makes me think that I pulled the trigger on my 4GC too soon.

M2 for coupe and M3 for sedan.

M4 seems to bloated for a coupe.

I agree completely.

sdshah · 08-12-2015, 01:23 AM

Looks like shit. Fix it.

david.orr · 08-12-2015, 02:05 AM

Apologies if I'm repeating someone else's comments, seeing this for the first time today and not having read all previous comments - AW may not be the best colour for the render. The vast space in the boot lid area and rear bar takes away from the flared wheel arches when viewed from rear. The front bar area looks jagged and edgy whilst rest of car is rather curvy and sweeping. Mismatched IMO. Nonetheless thank you for this Jason. Here's hoping the final product is a bit more 1M M3 and M4

Ian ///M · 08-12-2015, 03:31 AM

People really can't handle the purpose of this thread is speculation. I just went thru pages of people being crybabies and criticizing the photoshop like its the actual car. I'm sick

Ashley Schaeffer BMW · 08-12-2015, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by s3baman

I would imagine that we'll get 400+ on a dyno on a bone stock car.

LOL

Not even close.

OrangeCrush · 08-12-2015, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley Schaeffer BMW

LOL

Not even close.

Maybe he's talking about crank numbers? If at wheels?...yeah, no way.

InTheNightKitchen · 08-12-2015, 05:10 AM

FilipMPower · 08-12-2015, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

Maybe he's talking about crank numbers? If at wheels?...yeah, no way.

The car wont crank 400+ either. Crank will probably be 365-370. If its wheels get around 340 WHP, that doesn't mean the crank will be 390 hp at 15% drivetrain loss. With all the new technologies with driveshafts, electric steering and modern differentials the loss in driveshaft is NOT going to be 15%. More like 7%, which would make 340 at the wheels, the crank might be around 365 HP, which is rumored. Honestly, saying the F80 cranks 460 HP because the WHP is 400 doesn't make sense. At the M4 you can also count at around 7% loss, not 15%. So 400 WHP in the M4 will give 430 HP, as advertised, and not a lot more. The 15% loss in drivetrain made sense with the huge driveshafts and hydraulic steering, but nowadays with the M4 having carbon propshafts and electric steering, 5-7% makes more sense in a sporty RWD car, and 12-15% in AWD.

135iDCT · 08-12-2015, 05:48 AM

I told before it will come with optional front lights no one believed me

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Karmic Man · 08-12-2015, 06:05 AM

I think the proportions are off but the details are there.

By going wilder I take it as body lines would be more prominent and bolder.

The actual car should look much better than the render...

MR. · 08-12-2015, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FilipMPower

The car wont crank 400+ either. Crank will probably be 365-370. If its wheels get around 340 WHP, that doesn't mean the crank will be 390 hp at 15% drivetrain loss. With all the new technologies with driveshafts, electric steering and modern differentials the loss in driveshaft is NOT going to be 15%. More like 7%, which would make 340 at the wheels, the crank might be around 365 HP, which is rumored. Honestly, saying the F80 cranks 460 HP because the WHP is 400 doesn't make sense. At the M4 you can also count at around 7% loss, not 15%. So 400 WHP in the M4 will give 430 HP, as advertised, and not a lot more. The 15% loss in drivetrain made sense with the huge driveshafts and hydraulic steering, but nowadays with the M4 having carbon propshafts and electric steering, 5-7% makes more sense in a sporty RWD car, and 12-15% in AWD.

My 135i had stock 344 hp and 480 Nm, and not 302 hp and 400 Nm as communicated by BMW.

Two weeks ago we had a M4 on the dyno which had 495hp at 6,500 rpm + 621Nm at 2,500 rpm.... It was not tuned! Totally stock...

Then why would a 370hp M2 not have more than 400hp? Is the N55 engine so different from the S55 and N54? Does it never show an increase over the stock communicated performance?

MR

MR. · 08-12-2015, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 135iDCT

I told before it will come with optional front lights no one believed me

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LOL it will not

Xenons with adaptive lights and high beam assist, that is it.

MR

Joe S · 08-12-2015, 06:44 AM

Not bad

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metrickid Dinosaur supervisor 3030 Rep 4,214 Posts Drives: E91 318d Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Autobahn iTrader: (0)	I replied first in this thread but Jason removed it just to let Scott reply first... I'm not as important apparently! It is a well done render but the lines and proportions is somewhat off and makes it look quite bad. But remember how the M4 render looked and then how the real car turned out and most people will like the real deal later on. (I know this render is done from a more camouflaged prototype, but it illustrates the "problem") Attached Images Last edited by metrickid; 08-11-2015 at 10:51 PM..
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csbear Major 1118 Rep 1,054 Posts Drives: SO M2C Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Las Vegas, NV iTrader: (0)	Looks a little too aggressive up front as others have mentioned, like an aftermarket body kit. However, it's just a render, and I am thinking the actual M2 will be smoothed out.
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