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[robopp]

With manuals dying, a manual will always hold its value vs DCT. A manual with CCBs are the configuration to have with this car.

[jhall1957]

Originally Posted by robopp

With manuals dying, a manual will always hold its value vs DCT. A manual with CCBs are the configuration to have with this car.

I'm with you on the manual but question the CCB's. The steel brakes are awesome and a fraction of the price. And most track driver prefer the non-CCB's.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by robopp

With manuals dying, a manual will always hold its value vs DCT. A manual with CCBs are the configuration to have with this car.

How about 6MT, CCB, in right-hand drive!? lol

In Australia we got 84 allocations of which two were for the press.

I'm not alone but am sure there won't be too many others with that configuration.

[Piets94]

Argh, all that time wasted shifting a knob! For me that video really highlights how much quicker the DCT is on track. Glad I ordered mine in DCT as that is where my CS is headed. And with BMW phasing out the DCT, I'm not too sure future values will suffer all that much because of the transmission choice.

If I want purity, I'll take my E36 M3 euro out for a crack.

[Davil]

Originally Posted by robopp

With manuals dying, a manual will always hold its value vs DCT. A manual with CCBs are the configuration to have with this car.

It is the last ever BMW DCT though. Just as it reached near perfection they switched to a slushmatic. So there's that. Both manual and DCT are great options and both come with a story.

[robopp]

Originally Posted by jhall1957

I'm with you on the manual but question the CCB's. The steel brakes are awesome and a fraction of the price. And most track driver prefer the non-CCB's.

My opinion, but the CCBs are special for the M2CS, which is why I think they're mandatory for it. Separates the M2C and M2CS

[robopp]

Originally Posted by Davil

It is the last ever BMW DCT though. Just as it reached near perfection they switched to a slushmatic. So there's that. Both manual and DCT are great options and both come with a story.

Maybe. Audi and BMW had a forced induction vs NA battle for a while in early 2000's with both settling on FI. Audi is largely DCT now, maybe BMW will have a change of heart? Porsche is all PDK too. Maybe that will push BMW back. I went from an RS3 to X3M and the ZF is garbage for a performance car. At least the X3M is an SUV so it feels more 'natural', but not even close for a sedan/coupe.

[AxM2CS]

States a top speed of 184 at 0:40 ..

[jhall1957]

Originally Posted by robopp

My opinion, but the CCBs are special for the M2CS, which is why I think they're mandatory for it. Separates the M2C and M2CS

That's it? The only diff between the two is CCB? I hope you don't drive it enough to need a brake job because then you will get the point.

Either way, enjoy want you got. I don't think you can go wrong anyway you go...,


... except if you got a DCT. Yuck!

[Alpine*]

The guy in the video had no idea about the CS, so many comments off the mark/inaccurate when he did the walk around.

[robopp]

Originally Posted by jhall1957

That's it? The only diff between the two is CCB? I hope you don't drive it enough to need a brake job because then you will get the point.

Either way, enjoy want you got. I don't think you can go wrong anyway you go...,


... except if you got a DCT. Yuck!

You missed the point, and maybe that was my fault. CCB's are only available on the M2CS. That makes them special. People want differentiators from the normal M2C. Also, no brake dust and don't need to worry about a brake change for the 'life' of the car is pretty great too.

[Poochie]

My take on this subject; if you have second guess yourself on opting for the manual or not, on an M2, you never truly wanted one, just get the DCT and move on..

[Davil]

Originally Posted by Poochie

My take on this subject; on an M2, if you have second guess yourself on opting for the manual or not, you never truly wanted one, just get the DCT and move on..

When I went to order my M2C after that fateful day in 2018 when the Launch video arrived I walked into the dealer saying hell would freeze over the day I didn't choose a manual.

I test drove a DCT. Shortly after hell froze over.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Davil

When I went to order my M2C after that fateful day in 2018 when the Launch video arrived I walked into the dealer saying hell would freeze over the day I didn't choose a manual.

I test drove a DCT. Shortly after hell froze over.

No debate.

I'm sure with the DCT, its fun in its own right, to have instant gear changes but the M2 (and the G8X) is literally the last model in this segment, with a manual transmission option, so I would certainly not take that for granted.

That and I already decided that the day I have to give up the stick and clutch pedal, it's going to be for something all electric like this:

[CarJunkie]

Originally Posted by Davil

When I went to order my M2C after that fateful day in 2018 when the Launch video arrived I walked into the dealer saying hell would freeze over the day I didn't choose a manual.

I test drove a DCT. Shortly after hell froze over.

Glad to hear this! LOL

I drove an M5 with DCT a few years ago and loved the DCT. I have also driven a PDK 911 turbo, loved it. I'm pretty excited about the DCT, although I occasionally feel a little conflicted.

[Davil]

Just watched this video. Overall thought, I do think if you are doing a YouTube video and stating your preference you should first learn how to drive a manual properly so that you can do a proper comparison. He shifts like a Leyland bus driver. What on earth was he doing? Anyway. I think he feels he has developed some cred. He probably has for some people. For people that learnt in a manual, did their driving test in a manual 37 years ago it is somewhat of an amusing spectacle.

In other news. My son has turned 16. He will be learning to drive in a manual. This way you learn much more about car control and the car itself and eventually appreciate how great the DCT is as you actually understand it.

Hopefully he never makes a video like this.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Davil

Just watched this video. Overall thought, I do think if you are doing a YouTube video and stating your preference you should first learn how to drive a manual properly so that you can do a proper comparison. He shifts like a Leyland bus driver. What on earth was he doing? Anyway. I think he feels he has developed some cred. He probably has for some people. For people that learnt in a manual, did their driving test in a manual 37 years ago it is somewhat of an amusing spectacle.

In other news. My son has turned 16. He will be learning to drive in a manual. This way you learn much more about car control and the car itself and eventually appreciate how great the DCT is as you actually understand it.

Hopefully he never makes a video like this.

It seems you and I got our driver's licence around the same time under similar conditions.

However much I love the DCT, driving a 6MT is so very much more engaging. I'm not a petrol-head, and as such, to me at least, it is more the engagement with a great car that interests me over and above the extra 4 horses or 0.1 second shorter 0-100 dash!

I'm still young enough to want a fun fast car that is a joy to drive, and way too old to try and pretend to be Lewis Hamilton.

[F87EVO]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

It seems you and I got our driver's licence around the same time under similar conditions.

However much I love the DCT, driving a 6MT is so very much more engaging. I'm not a petrol-head, and as such, to me at least, it is more the engagement with a great car that interests me over and above the extra 4 horses or 0.1 second shorter 0-100 dash!

I'm still young enough to want a fun fast car that is a joy to drive, and way too old to try and pretend to be Lewis Hamilton.

Well said sir !