10-23-2017, 11:23 AM | #1255 |
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Am I to believe that dealers intentionally deny warranty? They do still get paid by BMW if it’s under warranty right? and for good business they want as much customers to be happy and everyone knows nobody wants to pay out of there own pockets if not needed. So why would they deny warranty if it’s not necessary?
The fact is coding items are inactivated functions already available in your car and just had to be waken up. BMW cars have been coded by enthusiast for years and I’ve never encountered anyone being denied because he/she was coded. Maybe you need to stop bitchin of things dealers are not allowed to do so you don’t get bitched slapped by them. It’s like asking an apple tree to grow oranges. |
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10-23-2017, 11:29 AM | #1256 |
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Nice attitude. My position is a personal one. No one's asking you to buy in. I'm just explaining my rationale. It's not your position, but that doesn't make it illogical. Just hope you're not attacked by any problems with you ecus or have any problems with dealer flashes working. I've been trying to get them to code it out for me to keep it on the up and up, but shop foreman at dealership claims they have no software from bmw to do it. I call bs but this is what they say. The only reason I'm not doing it myself yet is that I've read a few instances here where dealers have responded as I've indicated.
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10-23-2017, 12:02 PM | #1258 |
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Empathy? lol.. Its not empathy Im looking for. Its a little more customer focus from bmw and their dealers. Its bad enough that they dont give you the ability as a standard feature to tone this crap down or out, but to refuse to code to their own api themselves to remove it upon customer request , and then to also prohibit customers from doing so without threat of warranty impingement seems to me to be pretty far from 'customer focused'. I love BMW cars, but they do some strange things and have some strange policies. Always have.
Believe me I'd like to do it. But Murphy's law won't allow me. Yet... On second thought, maybe Ill just go with the technicpnp harness. People seem to very happy with those, and theyre virtually undiscoverable and easily reversible. Last edited by boostm3; 10-23-2017 at 08:24 PM.. |
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10-23-2017, 04:51 PM | #1259 |
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This is no different than other manufactures. All of this type of systems access will be locked down soon enough so this won't matter. Just imagine if someone fucks up a setting in an autonomous vehicle and kills someone.
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10-23-2017, 09:17 PM | #1260 | |
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I everyone decided to not put up with nonsense then BMW wouldn't bother fighting everyone, it wouldn't be worth it on their end and dealing with the bad press. |
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10-23-2017, 09:23 PM | #1262 | |
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But what if they DO discover it! Could deny you warranty if they know you were digging around pulling the trunk apart, disconnected cables, connected cables. You never know. |
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10-23-2017, 09:44 PM | #1263 |
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No. Its not the same as hacking the ecu at all.. The harness sits between the asd module and the amp. Thats it. Produces no codes, and the asd amp remains able to receive signals so future flashes are not impacted. They would have to show precisely what system this harness impacted and how. And theyd have to be explicitly tearing the trunk apart to look for it which theyd have no reason to do. And since it doenst impact any, they wont be able to demonstrate anything. Is it as vanilla as doing nothing? No.. But its a far cry from giving anybody the chance to claim you hacked into the ecu and made changes to factory settings you are not supposed to have access to. Dont forget that many times, people have fooked things up royally with the ecus from attempting this. There are loads of examples over at bimmerfest as well as here. Hacking into closed systems is never a sure thing.. 'i flipped this switch, and now my mirrors wont fold'.. etc, etc.. Happens all the time. And if you cant fix it, off to the dealer you go, tail between legs begging for mercy. Far worse things can happen when it comes to electronics. I know a guy with a fancy Mercedes van... Whole electrical system flaked out.. $30k repair the dealer will take care of.. Wonder what would have happened had he been founding making unauthorized changes to ecus with unauthorized sofftware. Whoops....
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10-23-2017, 10:35 PM | #1265 |
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Well look. All I know is a lot of owners have inserted the harness and I've yet to read of a single case where it caused any problems with the car or the dealer or anyone else.
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Hi, I own an F25 X3 with the standard halogen headlights. If I turn on the DRL setting within the idrive it just turns all of my lights on even the dash lights.
Is there a way to code the DRL setting to only turn on the sidelights and no other? (thinking of getting some nice LED sidelights and using those as the DRLs). Thanks! P.S. I do own the bimmercode app and wifi dongle. |
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Morale of the story: don't ask the dealership to do something they aren't comfortable with. Their response will always be to frighten you with invalid warranty issues. |
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10-24-2017, 02:13 PM | #1271 |
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Was this a scheduled service? I wouldnt think there'd be any problem with scheduled service. Its when something goes askew with a component controlled by an ECU that has been coded where there Might be a problem in getting warranty coverage. I say Might, as not all dealers will react the same, obviously.
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all that being said, coding of my car never came up and they seemed clueless it was even done.
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Well if someone doesn't want the risk, then don't mod the car. Its that simple really.
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So I had my software updated at BMW yesterday and all the coding was erased. I went back and recoded everything and it went fine. EXCEPT that the ability to change the indicator amount of times is not there anymore. It used to be and I had it set to 5 times and it was great now I can't and it sucks. Anybody know why? I emailed through the app but have not heard back yet.
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