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They are evaluating the M1 for Europe against the European performance hatches. Because based on the Coupe it would be if given the green light only RWD but could be offered in both 3dr and 5dr.
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BMW M2 (F87) is a Go! Coming Late 2015 - Early 2016 http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=976863 |
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When you say M1, I take that to mean a 1-series derived M-car, right? Is BMW going to trot out the M1 moniker? That'd be a real shame after the naming debacle that was the "1-series M Coupe".
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Because us in North America could never appreciate a hatch version??? Good lord, will BMW ever give us a break!
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X2 BMW should have bring the f20 long time ago rather than bring a Fwd active tourer. BMW complain that the touring version aren't selling but why are they limiting transmission, drivetrain and engine option? A base 320i f31 would be much more interesting than the active tourer. Same goes with the F11.
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Have never heard a solid reason why BMW didn't bring it over, other than NA is undeserving. Kinda like the RS3.. (again smug) Be nice if Ford dropped a Focus RS in America.. (using the 2.3 eb & awd) perfect side-car for winter. |
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I thought the RS was coming to America? Supposedly it's getting 300+ HP courtesy of the 2.3L EcoBoost I4 out of the 2015 Mustang, but will be FWD only. The FWD thing obviously ruins the formula. What good is 300+ HP with wrong-wheel drive?
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I agree that every car should have an auto and a manual option but when the Porsche 911 GT3 which is one of the most driver focused cars in the world only comes in auto at some point you just have to get over it. Or at least acknowledge that the auto-only thing makes cars "irrelevant" only to a small minority like yourself. |
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The term 'dinosaur' comes to mind.
In the future manual transmission will only be available in budget models and trucks, many will find that sad, but that wont change the fact it will be true. |
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Audi is not relevant,
they just have greatly built cars with massive amounts of power. But still they feel like Volkswagens with extra ketchup. I can't say they are ugly, can't say they are nice... They give me no feeling at all actually. |
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Same goes for manuals transmissions. Clutch pedal manuals are too cumbersome. I don't need to get 3 out of my 4 extremities involved just to feel satisfied with a gear shift. I don't need for my body to look like I'm convulsing (or having a seizure) just to feel involved with the driving. The closer we can get to F1 type gear shifts the better IMO. |
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I knew I would get some goats with the manual only comment.
And yes, I speak only for myself and a small contingent of diehards. I like manuals because I feel genuinely more involved via mechanical linkage to the car. I like that I have greater control over the car because it will never upshift or downshift except when I want it to and I have other control advantages via varying degrees of clutch engagement (although that last bit is only useful a small percentage of my driving time). I honestly hate it when an automatic shifts for me uncommanded. All that should come with the context that I am a helicopter pilot and that direct mechanical linkage with all four appendages is a similar feel. It just makes me feel like a part of the machine in a way that the disconnected autos don't, but that is my personal preference (and that of a small percentage of enthusiasts). Do modern high-end autos and DCTs outperform manuals? In most cases yes. Why are the high-end cars (Lambos, Ferrarris, etc) going to them almost exclusively? Because they want to eke out every last possible fraction of a second for performance numbers, and because we are an increasingly push-button automated society. The nintendo/playstation generation wants simple, and there is nothing wrong with that. I just prefer to do it myself. So, The RS3 is irrelevant for me and lots of others because it won't come in manual. That, and I have yet to drive any audi that had decent steering feel, especially compared to Bimmers. |
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To each his own. But the clutch pedal manual is the past, not the future. It has been surpassed by less cumbersome, faster and more efficient automatics. Last edited by Tony; 08-21-2014 at 11:44 AM.. |
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