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Refraction Blue is really sexy and for me its the best color for the Supra (unless they do a Hakone edition green, then i'm going to have to trade my car for that one). However the dumbest thing and i dont know why they did this. The A91 (the refraction blue) doesnt come with a HUD. Like...why. Why take that option away. I really wanted a HUD, but i wanted the A91 more as i like the seats better (alcantara with leather vs all leather) and the blue stitching looks better than the white. But like cmon, wheres my HUD lol. Also there are so many choices with suspension. I'm going with the HKS HAS kit where i can keep my adaptive suspension but go lower and stiffer. Thats such a benefit. But i can also go full coilover if i wanted too. Exhausts are also cheaper because everyone is making one for the Supra. |
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01-12-2021, 10:49 AM | #114 |
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Interesting to read your opinions on this. For me a Supra is out of the question until it comes with a manual gearbox. But when it does, hmmm..
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01-12-2021, 03:45 PM | #115 |
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I definitely think they would have sold more if they had come with a MT option. However its also very possible that they are reserving it for a later release. Toyota wants every release to have big changes to keep the car going for the next 5 years, and we already know that a MT option was tested with the car before production.
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01-16-2021, 04:29 AM | #116 |
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I was cross shopping the Supra as well. Test drove several different Supras and spent tons of time in them. Several factors swayed me towards the M2C: 1) I hated the way I had to duck my head everytime I entered the car, 2) No manual option, 3) Reduced visibility compared to the M2C, 4) Seats weren’t as good as the Bimmer, and finally and MOST importantly 5) No space for my son and daughter. Id love to have the Supra and I agree with most of the points brought up in this thread. However the M2C is a do all car which fits my lifestyle and my current stage of life. if I were single or had disposable income it def would be our 3rd car.
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01-16-2021, 12:10 PM | #117 | |
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I do miss having the potential back seats or even the option to hold more if i fold them down, but as my girlfriend said "we have my GTI for that". So that helped convince me. |
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01-16-2021, 05:58 PM | #118 |
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Numbers don’t tell the whole story. Randy may have gone faster in the Stupra (SIC), but out of 12 cars in the Best Drivers Car test, he ranked the Supra 9th and the M2 Competition 4th, behind only the GT350, Senna, and the winning Carrera S.
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01-16-2021, 10:54 PM | #119 |
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Makes sense. The Supra first and foremost is more of a GT car while the M2 Competition is the drivers track weapon. The Supra does exceptionally well for being more of a cruiser, however as much as i love the Supra and prefer it, i would also rate the M2 Competition higher as far as a pure drivers car.
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Heres an older pic when i just got my new wheels. Since then i've gotten some meatier tires so fitment is better. |
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01-19-2021, 04:41 PM | #123 |
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Thank you! I love these wheels and i think they look really good on the blue. I agree the ZF really surprised me. I had a 230i for a small bit with that transmission and it really sold me on automatics. I still think a DCT is better, but honestly the difference is so small nowadays.
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01-19-2021, 08:29 PM | #124 |
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I've never personally sat in a Supra but I've been looking at various reviews here and there. Recently, I came across this:
Is this really a problem with that car? |
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Does the car (especially the 2020) suffer from bumpsteer. Yes. Is it as drastic and as bad as he says it is. i dont know. I know plenty of people (including my own mechanic) who track their 2020 Supra's heavily and have never had this complaint. They dont even have any extra suspension mods except lowering springs. Now that being said, Toyota did say that they fixed the bumpsteer issue. I have a 2021 with the supposed fix. I know what bumpsteer feels like, my s2000 is basically steered primarily by it, i just need to put my foot down lol. Do i notice any bumpsteer when i daily drive the Supra? Not even a little bit. Now granted i'm no track rat or pro racing driver, so what i can feel vs what someone who has hours of experience at the track can feel are going to vary. Also take into account that some people just want their cars to be setup a certain way, and thats just not how it comes from the factory. Remember the video where Matt Farah talks about how uncontrollable the M2Competition is and how bad the brakes are? I kinda view this video like i did that one. Both are in very specific situations with specific drivers and maybe this car just didnt fit them personally. Does this car have excessive bumpsteer? i dont think so, and tbh i dont think 80% of drivers will find an issue with it in stock form. |
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It’s entirely possible in my mind that the Supra suffers from massive bump steer when driven by certain people while others will never experience that effect. |
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Toyota keeps tweaking their cars (LC, RCF, new IS) and I think they'll keep supra around without a major redesign for a few extra yrs, throw in the manual, shed weight, etc through the life of the model. People (including myself) posted the same in the Camisa thread comparing Supra and M2. |
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I happen to be on track with 3 Supras this weekend. One of them lost boost but threw zero codes. Brand new car so owner was disappointed and somewhat concerned. I'n spending with owner he seemed very satisfied with its performance on track before that happened.
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I cross-shopped both the 2021 Supra and my new to me '19 M2C. I was really blown away with how much fun the Supra was. You really do feel the low center of gravity and the b58 motor sounds great (IMO better than the S55) and pulls like a freight train. I'm coming from the wonderful S65 in my e90M so maybe I'm more in tune with engines that howl (b58) vs shriek (s55).
I also really liked the steering feel vs the M2 and the simplicity of the a single sport button. It feels sooo eager to kick its ass out in sport mode which makes it a ball on the street. I was 2 seconds away from pulling the trigger before my wife reminded me to test drive the M2 before making my decision and the availability of a manual + rear seats really pushed it over the edge. I think the m2 is the better car, but the Supra with a manual would be REALLY tough to beat as a toy.
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