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      06-06-2018, 04:38 PM   #45
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At $150 per hour roof install will be $1875
for labor alone ahhahahahah

don't forget your new windshields and the actual roof itself.
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At $150 per hour roof install will be $1875
for labor alone ahhahahahah

don't forget your new windshields and the actual roof itself.
I would really hate to put my brand new, 60k car through that kind of intensive surgery.

I rather hit the treadmill and lose 20 pounds and maintain my new car smell..
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I would really hate to put my brand new, 60k car through that kind of intensive surgery.

I rather hit the treadmill and lose 20 pounds and maintain my new car smell..
I’d do port install no doubt. Wondering if that is why windscreens are mandatory, to simplify the process. Easier and quicker to install fresh windscreens. If your local shop is careful, they should be able reuse windscreens.
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At $150 per hour roof install will be $1875
for labor alone ahhahahahah

don't forget your new windshields and the actual roof itself.
I would really hate to put my brand new, 60k car through that kind of intensive surgery.

I rather hit the treadmill and lose 20 pounds and maintain my new car smell..
I just lost 12, that's like the roof and hood lmao
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BMW could have made the roof a factory option at a significant up-charge ($2x current price?) and still had a higher take rate then selling at MSRP and forcing dealer install. Plus, BMW could pocket the material costs for the old roof. It's almost like they're trying to discourage M2 owners from doing this.
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BMW could have made the roof a factory option at a significant up-charge ($2x current price?) and still had a higher take rate then selling at MSRP and forcing dealer install. Plus, BMW could pocket the material costs for the old roof. It's almost like they're trying to discourage M2 owners from doing this.
You nailed it.
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I just lost 12, that's like the roof and hood lmao
Hood alone is 19+ lbs lighter. Hood and trunk combined should be about 33 lbs savings. Damn good actually.
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Didn’t @Mr say US buyers could get roof port installed? When roof is available to order.
yes.. no idea what that labor rate is.. if it's service department labor rates.. then one may be better off finding a body shop as the body shop rates should be significantly less than the service dept... by about 40-50%.
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I just lost 12, that's like the roof and hood lmao
Hood alone is 19+ lbs lighter. Hood and trunk combined should be about 33 lbs savings. Damn good actually.
My goal is about that.
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The roof part is a very weird decision by BMW...that would be so an easy factory upgrade.

Talked to two dealers...none of them will offer this...not only because of work but the potential discussions (and more work) this can bring later with the customer if there are some issues after installment...

Looks really like BMW wanted to show that they can offer serious aftermarket parts but does it that complicated to hold you off from actually installing them...likely in 2 years you will see all those as options on order for the next M2
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yes.. no idea what that labor rate is.. if it's service department labor rates.. then one may be better off finding a body shop as the body shop rates should be significantly less than the service dept... by about 40-50%.
Port install has always been no cost. You usually pay msrp for parts, but some have been able to negotiate discounts on Mperf parts into their car deal.
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They intentionally made the roof difficult to obtain..

I am still trying to find the reasoning in that decision..
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there is none. this move will for sure backfire on them.
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The roof part is a very weird decision by BMW...that would be so an easy factory upgrade.

Talked to two dealers...none of them will offer this...not only because of work but the potential discussions (and more work) this can bring later with the customer if there are some issues after installment...

Looks really like BMW wanted to show that they can offer serious aftermarket parts but does it that complicated to hold you off from actually installing them...likely in 2 years you will see all those as options on order for the next M2
if there is any reason... it's likely to simply avoid crashing a car and the federalization process... which is quite $PENDY..

the E36 M3 LTW for the US market came with the rear wing and front splitter and some other items in the trunk... they were not allowed to be installed on the car as they were not federalized.

My personal opinion with the M2 comp performance parts catalog is that BMW is selling the M performance parts as " aftermarket parts " in order to amortize the parts expense over as many units as possible.. Let's say they make 5000 of every part in the initial production run... and likely there will be a new model that undergoes federalization and is the entire full meal deal of parts installed at the factory .

If the special model has a limited run of say.. 1000 cars... then that means that they have 1000 of the original 5000 parts run committed for... The cost per part to produce 5000 parts will be cheaper per part than making 1000 parts for the special model alone, allowing the special model to have a slightly lower cost associated with producing it.

Speaking of what you mentioned @Daaan ...I was at a track event and a local dealer declined to do a track ALIGNMENT for a customer.
No parts needed at all... just a request to set the car up with particular alignment specs...

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The roof part is a very weird decision by BMW...that would be so an easy factory upgrade.
Not really. It would mean changes to their entire production line. Decision doesn’t bode well for individuals thinking a carbon roof is coming from factory on a possible CSL. They obviously had second thoughts about something and just decided to offer it in parts department.
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One will need to find a specialty shop or a RACE shop to do this. Many many repairers will blanch at replacing a roof...
Well if you're ordering a new M2C have it done at port with full warranty at least. That way you can make them do it like three or four times to fix all the problems! Really make BMW sorry.
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The roof part is a very weird decision by BMW...that would be so an easy factory upgrade.
Not really. It would mean changes to their entire production line. Decision doesn’t bode well for individuals thinking a carbon roof is coming from factory on a possible CSL. They obviously had second thoughts about something and just decided to offer it in parts department.
Of course it is a change...but not that much...if you look at a production video, they could just leave the roofskin off on such an order and do it at later stage as they install other individual ordered parts...or even just have a robo supply putting the carbon roof instead the normal one...apparently just glue and 4 bolts...so not that much more change than building an M2 instead of a normal 2er

But I agree...sure they have some thoughts...and probably we will know at some point .
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Port install has always been no cost. You usually pay msrp for parts, but some have been able to negotiate discounts on Mperf parts into their car deal.
I hadn't the foggiest..

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Well if you're ordering a new M2C have it done at port with full warranty at least. That way you can make them do it like three or four times to fix all the problems! Really make BMW sorry.
Clearly then if this a new car purchase.. Port install is best.. For people with an OG M2 ... or an M2 comp after purchase.. ... go to a (dealer or an independent ) body shop, not the service department.
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BMW could have made the roof a factory option at a significant up-charge ($2x current price?) and still had a higher take rate then selling at MSRP and forcing dealer install. Plus, BMW could pocket the material costs for the old roof. It's almost like they're trying to discourage M2 owners from doing this.
You have to factor in the warranty issues they will probably have this too, as dealer or port installed will warranty the work. If done before delivery at port (and dealer where it has to be??) should get the full car warranty.
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Still struck by all the trepidation of the roof install itself. I'd do it to my car if someone else was paying for it. Relax your car will be fine.

About that price though...
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A black M2C with those frozen-gold wheels is going to look gooood.
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