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I’ve ridden in a Tesla and didn’t like it. It made no mechanical noise, which was weird from an experience standpoint. I don’t know this to be the case, but I would assume it doesn’t perform well in situations that involve corners. It’s definitely cool tech, but that’s not what I care about in a car.
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In my opinion, they should have stayed with the 'entry m' concept and made a stripper m2 with a non-detuned s55, lightwieght buckets, rear seat delete, and carbon brakes while focusing on the 'entry' price and call it the csl. |
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I also have friends in Europe that track extensively and race(one was a Porsche factory support driver) who chose to part with a GT3 and GT4. I am not saying in any way the GTS is above or even on par with those cars as this is where it gets a bit subjective. My ONLY gripes with GTS is it needs more power and more rubber. Mine will be upwards of 570hp soon and a proper wheel/tyre track setup. The longer straights on track is the only area I get gapped by many other cars.
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My thought is maybe a M2 beyond the CS or CP doesn't make a business case as the 2 series as we know it is nearing the end of its life cycle( In production since 2013). If BMW wants to pump more products, versions might as well start on the next gen now. An do it properly, as the cost to benefit ratio may not be worth it with the current gen M2 beyond the CS/CP.
mkoesel Isn't it a rumor that BMW is working on a new 4.0 V8 to replace the 4.4? A similar set up like MB makes sense as it could be used in the "standard" cars just detuned and cost spread it across the line up. Last edited by DocWeatherington; 12-08-2017 at 02:29 PM.. |
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Says the GTS owner, as the GT3s, without any adjustments whatsoever, are flying by on circuit.
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Are you talking about the F90 hybrid or are they building a next gen hybrid M5 using F90 chassis as a test mule? The idea of an F90 hybrid seems insane to me. |
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I just want BMW to make a M2 with actual M seats. Is that too much to ask for?
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I never cared for the CSL either. 1,000 only units, DCT only. No manual no care. I think its better M division focus on the comp and mayybe CS than a 1,000 unit CSL. Seems like a waste in R&D just for 1,000 units.
Now if it were manual only CSL than sign me up!!
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After driving a demo M2, and even just sitting in the one on the showroom floor we have, that's my biggest criticism. Maybe if we're lucky, they'll straighten them out too. Those two things happen, then no CSL is okay with me.
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The last M2 prototypes before this were produced in September and carried plates 1404 and 1405 I think. Why would BMW start booking parts out of inventory now. It is not even just a few random parts. Some of the things that were picked up were left and right air intakes, holders of some sort, air circulation coolers, sealing walls, oil pump wheel, oil pump control unit etc. etc. It's like they are building almost a new car and not just tweaking something. I was also told that all these parts were not available throughout 2016 which is when we first started hearing about the CS. Some of the parts have only existed since November of 2016 (After the initial spy videos of M2 variant surfaced). Some of the parts like Bumper contribution left, right, Reduction.Bumpers front (ZB VERKL. STOSSF. VORN M2 CS) sound like things you would not have on a base M2 replacement. Also, US dealerships were officially told about the 1000 production M2 version. Taking all this into consideration, I am making an assumption that the M2 CS is still on. I have no confirmation on it.... Yet. Quote:
How so ?. I think we are both saying that there will be one special edition limited M2. I used to hope it would be the CSL but it looks like it could be the CS. I am not sure about the timeline but think 2019 could be accurate since this also aligns with the production schedule leak. Last edited by Gatte; 12-08-2017 at 04:44 PM.. |
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