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      04-01-2020, 01:39 PM   #1
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I'm currently looking at a 2018 M2 that was traded in last month and is up for sale locally.

$43,000 KM on it but it looks like during pre inspection it was determined that new brakes and rotors are needed tech said the "Vehicle pulls a drifts, brakes pulsate badly, brake condition very poor."

I was wondering if rotor replacement is something that comes up often on the M2 especially considering the mileage on this vehicle.

Thanks would appreciate your feedback on this.
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Car was likely tracked. On normal street use no need to touch the brakes before 100k kms.

DO you have any pictures of the brake rotors? If you can see circular lines on the rotors that is a good indicator of material transfer. This only happens at high temps. And that only happens on the track.

Not a bad thing, many of these cars are tracked as they make awesome track cars, but just something to consider.
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Car was likely tracked. On normal street use no need to touch the brakes before 100k kms.

DO you have any pictures of the brake rotors? If you can see circular lines on the rotors that is a good indicator of material transfer. This only happens at high temps. And that only happens on the track.

Not a bad thing, many of these cars are tracked as they make awesome track cars, but just something to consider.
That is what I suspected. Here is a photo of the rotors not sure if it's close enough to tell...
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A good indication of regular track driving is discolored calipers, it does not look like it on the picture or maybe someones did 1 or 2 track events and overheated them. It could even happen on the street with a careless driver. The OEM pads will cause pad deposit easily wich could feel like the description the tech gave.

These rotors don't warp, when they are done they crack. A crack between 2 holes is a sign you need to replace them.
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A good indication of regular track driving is discolored calipers, it does not look like it on the picture or maybe someones did 1 or 2 track events and overheated them. It could even happen on the street with a careless driver. The OEM pads will cause pad deposit easily wich could feel like the description the tech gave.

These rotors don't warp, when they are done they crack. A crack between 2 holes is a sign you need to replace them.
Thanks for the info!

The car also needed new tires so it may have just been a one or two track visit.
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Thanks for posting, that doesn't look bad. No grooving and just obvious the car has been sitting for a bit. I wouldn't worry about it.

P.S. I track mine, and I can tell you with full confidence that once you get good brake fluid and some track pads, those blue brakes can stand up to tracks like Nurburgring. Have fun and enjoy the car!
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Thanks for posting, that doesn't look bad. No grooving and just obvious the car has been sitting for a bit. I wouldn't worry about it.

P.S. I track mine, and I can tell you with full confidence that once you get good brake fluid and some track pads, those blue brakes can stand up to tracks like Nurburgring. Have fun and enjoy the car!
If I do decide to purchase the vehicle they are going to put own brakes and rotors onto the vehicle but I'm also not sure why it wasn't already done.

I'm still trying to decide if I want to jump on this car it does look like it has been tracked at least once or twice which isn't really a big deal.

2018 M2 with 43,000KM for $50,000 CAN, executive package, m performance exhaust.

May try to work them down a bit.
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Thanks for posting, that doesn't look bad. No grooving and just obvious the car has been sitting for a bit. I wouldn't worry about it.

P.S. I track mine, and I can tell you with full confidence that once you get good brake fluid and some track pads, those blue brakes can stand up to tracks like Nurburgring. Have fun and enjoy the car!
If I do decide to purchase the vehicle they are going to put own brakes and rotors onto the vehicle but I'm also not sure why it wasn't already done.

I'm still trying to decide if I want to jump on this car it does look like it has been tracked at least once or twice which isn't really a big deal.

2018 M2 with 43,000KM for $50,000 CAN, executive package, m performance exhaust.

May try to work them down a bit.
I'd drive them down because of mileage.

I have the exact same car, mine is DCT and I freakin LOVE the thing ! Next step is 911 GTS, there's like nothing else that's worth it between them. That tells you something about the M2's
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so with the car being obviously tracked if I do come to an agreement on a price and decide to purchase are there any other areas of the vehicle that I should examine in related to track use.

I guess with it still being under warranty for two years I shouldn't be worried too much?
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Price is very high for the mileage. From what I can tell, it's only missing the LEDs and doesn't have the sunroof.

The brake issue is likely due to pad material stuck on the face of the rotor. It would be shocking if these rotors warped as there's very few instances of actual warped rotors on the M2 or M3/M4 forums even from tracking.

You should easily be able to get it for low 40s, otherwise there's plenty of lower mileage 2018s on the market for similar money.
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Price is very high for the mileage. From what I can tell, it's only missing the LEDs and doesn't have the sunroof.

The brake issue is likely due to pad material stuck on the face of the rotor. It would be shocking if these rotors warped as there's very few instances of actual warped rotors on the M2 or M3/M4 forums even from tracking.

You should easily be able to get it for low 40s, otherwise there's plenty of lower mileage 2018s on the market for similar money.
Correct I have attached the options on the vehicle price is in Canadian
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Price is very high for the mileage. From what I can tell, it's only missing the LEDs and doesn't have the sunroof.

The brake issue is likely due to pad material stuck on the face of the rotor. It would be shocking if these rotors warped as there's very few instances of actual warped rotors on the M2 or M3/M4 forums even from tracking.

You should easily be able to get it for low 40s, otherwise there's plenty of lower mileage 2018s on the market for similar money.
Correct I have attached the options on the vehicle price is in Canadian
Are they CPOing it?
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New canadian CPO is now 5 years total/unlimited km's. If they sell it cpo I think they would have to replace brakes and make sure everything is spot on.

I looked at values and it's not too bad, mine would be worth around 55k cad with 10 500km on it.
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Price is very high for the mileage. From what I can tell, it's only missing the LEDs and doesn't have the sunroof.

The brake issue is likely due to pad material stuck on the face of the rotor. It would be shocking if these rotors warped as there's very few instances of actual warped rotors on the M2 or M3/M4 forums even from tracking.

You should easily be able to get it for low 40s, otherwise there's plenty of lower mileage 2018s on the market for similar money.
Correct I have attached the options on the vehicle price is in Canadian
Are they CPOing it?
The vehicle is CPO but it only comes with the 4 year 80,000km warranty no extended warranty but it can be purchased during the transaction (it's being sold by a BMW dealership).

Brakes and Rotors are going to be replaced once purchased...they said they don't want to replace them and have the vehicle sit there for a long period.
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Price is very high for the mileage. From what I can tell, it's only missing the LEDs and doesn't have the sunroof.

The brake issue is likely due to pad material stuck on the face of the rotor. It would be shocking if these rotors warped as there's very few instances of actual warped rotors on the M2 or M3/M4 forums even from tracking.

You should easily be able to get it for low 40s, otherwise there's plenty of lower mileage 2018s on the market for similar money.
Correct I have attached the options on the vehicle price is in Canadian
Are they CPOing it?
The vehicle is CPO but it only comes with the 4 year 80,000km warranty no extended warranty but it can be purchased during the transaction (it's being sold by a BMW dealership).

Brakes and Rotors are going to be replaced once purchased...they said they don't want to replace them and have the vehicle sit there for a long period.
That's not a CPO car then. CPO cars automatically come with a 5 year unlimited km (in Canada) warranty as the poster above mentioned.

The 4-yr/80k applies to all BMW cars in Canada regardless of CPO status.
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Price is very high for the mileage. From what I can tell, it's only missing the LEDs and doesn't have the sunroof.

The brake issue is likely due to pad material stuck on the face of the rotor. It would be shocking if these rotors warped as there's very few instances of actual warped rotors on the M2 or M3/M4 forums even from tracking.

You should easily be able to get it for low 40s, otherwise there's plenty of lower mileage 2018s on the market for similar money.
Correct I have attached the options on the vehicle price is in Canadian
Are they CPOing it?
The vehicle is CPO but it only comes with the 4 year 80,000km warranty no extended warranty but it can be purchased during the transaction (it's being sold by a BMW dealership).

Brakes and Rotors are going to be replaced once purchased...they said they don't want to replace them and have the vehicle sit there for a long period.
That's not a CPO car then. CPO cars automatically come with a 5 year unlimited km (in Canada) warranty as the poster above mentioned.

The 4-yr/80k applies to all BMW cars in Canada regardless of CPO status.
I had to ask them but they did confirmed it is a CPO vehicle but forgot to mention it is covered for powertrain for 5 years from the in service date. Looks like maybe that is why the price is around $50,000 CAN. You would think that would be something you would want to advertise.

Found this on bmw.ca...

With the Certified Pre-Owned (CPO) Program, your vehicle is covered by a complimentary Powertrain Limited Warranty for five (5) years
and Unlimited Kilometres starting from the manufacturer's original in-service date.1, 2 The BMW CPO Powertrain Limited Warranty helps cover the costs that may result from unexpected mechanical repairs, including parts and labour. No deductibles; pay nothing on covered repairs.
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If it's CPO then its a decent deal. Just bed the brakes in again and they should be fine. I had a pretty bad vibration on my front brakes and 5-6 100-10 km/h braking passes on the highway and its all gone.
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