[nothingman]

Originally Posted by Dabozo

This appears to be a later version than the one myself and others received. Have you noticed a change in the pops and crackles (before and after)?

It does seem like there may be less burbles than before. I had BM3 installed before I took it in (flashed back to stock first) and I'm not really a fan of the burbles so it doesn't bother me.

[Dabozo]

Originally Posted by nothingman

It does seem like there may be less burbles than before. I had BM3 installed before I took it in (flashed back to stock first) and I'm not really a fan of the burbles so it doesn't bother me.

I hear you re not being a fan of the pops etc...since I like to drive in sport+ 99% of the time, there are moments I found it too pronounced but the way it is now is practically non-existent.

[cookiesowns]

There hasn't been a new DME update for the N55 M2 for a little while.... Those reporting burbles are less are probably getting used to the new ASD calibration which isn't as intrusive as well as the fact that it takes a bit for the DME to re adapt the fuel trims in order to get maximum burbles.

Do a few WOT pulls and you'll find the burbles come back to life

[Dabozo]

Originally Posted by cookiesowns

There hasn't been a new DME update for the N55 M2 for a little while.... Those reporting burbles are less are probably getting used to the new ASD calibration which isn't as intrusive as well as the fact that it takes a bit for the DME to re adapt the fuel trims in order to get maximum burbles.

Do a few WOT pulls and you'll find the burbles come back to life

I hope you are right!
As for the asd- I coded it out ...both before and after update. The thought of the car having to 're-learn' did cross my mind as a probable cause however my car 'popped and cracked' the day I drove it off the lot...
This morning I decided to drop in to the dealer to see what they would have to say about this and their response was of no surprise- 'a istep update would not be capable of causing this'.
I'm booked in for early next week. What they suggested we do is compare my car with other M2's they have on their lot that have not been updated yet.
Excellent idea.

[gtaM2]

Originally Posted by Dabozo

I hope you are right!
As for the asd- I coded it out ...both before and after update. The thought of the car having to 're-learn' did cross my mind as a probable cause however my car 'popped and cracked' the day I drove it off the lot...
This morning I decided to drop in to the dealer to see what they would have to say about this and their response was of no surprise- 'a istep update would not be capable of causing this'.
I'm booked in for early next week. What they suggested we do is compare my car with other M2's they have on their lot that have not been updated yet.
Excellent idea.

that's pretty decent of them to at least compare, keep us updated on what happens

[M2C_PLUS]

I had mine updated to the latest software 3 weeks ago. The pops and crackles are still there without a doubt! LCI DCT Model. On the latest software a lot of the modules are updated.

[Dabozo]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

I had mine updated to the latest software 3 weeks ago. The pops and crackles are still there without a doubt! LCI DCT Model. On the latest software a lot of the modules are updated.

Any chance you could share the software version?

I wonder if there is a chance that pre-lci cars (mine) are affected differently with this update.

On a side note, I asked if it's even possible to revert to a previous iteration of the istep and was told not possible because they don't have access to any 'old' versions. BMW downloads new versions to their servers as they become available and that is basically all that is available for upload to our vehicles. Sounds plausible.

[M2C_PLUS]

Originally Posted by Dabozo

Any chance you could share the software version?

I wonder if there is a chance that pre-lci cars (mine) are affected differently with this update.

On a side note, I asked if it's even possible to revert to a previous iteration of the istep and was told not possible because they don't have access to any 'old' versions. BMW downloads new versions to their servers as they become available and that is basically all that is available for upload to our vehicles. Sounds plausible.

Here you go mate...

Maybe pre lci are, Im not sure. When the tech showed me the list of modules that were updated there was a list of at least 10 abbreviations showing what was updated. The dash, ASD, gearbox and bluetooth were some of them.

[Dabozo]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

Here you go mate...

Maybe pre lci are, Im not sure. When the tech showed me the list of modules that were updated there was a list of at least 10 abbreviations showing what was updated. The dash, ASD, gearbox and bluetooth were some of them.

Thanks. This is same version as mine. The plot thickens...

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by Dabozo

Thanks. This is same version as mine. The plot thickens...

Hrm... the only possibility is if the dealer didn't successfully update the process using ISTA+.

I to am on recent firmware and my car is a 2017 6MT pre-lci. gets tons of burbles and bangs.

[Dabozo]

Originally Posted by cookiesowns

Hrm... the only possibility is if the dealer didn't successfully update the process using ISTA+.

I to am on recent firmware and my car is a 2017 6MT pre-lci. gets tons of burbles and bangs.

Interesting. Mine is '17 6mt pre LCI as well.
One thing that could bolster your theory is the fact that I can no longer scroll the nav map using the touch pad. I was able to pre-update. It could turn out to be just a user setting but I've looked everywhere and can't find anywhere where i would turn this feature on.
The touch pad still works if I want to spell letters however.
Can anyone else on latest update (N180321 or any for that matter) confirm wether they have this functionality (ability to scroll map)?

[boostm3]

Originally Posted by blind-3y3-

Here it is:

I cant seem to find that particular version info screen in Idrive. Can someone direct me?

[gtaM2]

i didnt want to do this but more and more a bm3 tune is becoming a reality for me, this should restore the pops and burbles imo

[Dabozo]

Originally Posted by gtaM2

i didnt want to do this but more and more a bm3 tune is becoming a reality for me, this should restore the pops and burbles imo

Yep. They may be forcing my hand. I'm sure as shit not giving them any more of my $ (MPE for example) if they have indeed permanently messed with the car. Not cool.
I'll have more answers next week when dealer compares my car to other M2's.

[nothingman]

Originally Posted by boostm3

I cant seem to find that particular version info screen in Idrive. Can someone direct me?

It's under nav
http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...2&postcount=33

[M2C_PLUS]

Originally Posted by Dabozo

Yep. They may be forcing my hand. I'm sure as shit not giving them any more of my $ (MPE for example) if they have indeed permanently messed with the car. Not cool.
I'll have more answers next week when dealer compares my car to other M2's.

Something is up with yours mate. I actually opened my window while in SPORT mode and in D2 today, revving to just over 2000rpm and backing off I was getting little crackles and pops. Even more so when the throttle is planted.

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by Dabozo

Interesting. Mine is '17 6mt pre LCI as well.
One thing that could bolster your theory is the fact that I can no longer scroll the nav map using the touch pad. I was able to pre-update. It could turn out to be just a user setting but I've looked everywhere and can't find anywhere where i would turn this feature on.
The touch pad still works if I want to spell letters however.
Can anyone else on latest update (N180321 or any for that matter) confirm wether they have this functionality (ability to scroll map)?

Scrolling on map was disabled for good reason. I think this is due to iDrive6 being more specific for those with the touchscreen.

Mine had it gone for a while. I want to say the March 2017 update.

[Dabozo]

Originally Posted by cookiesowns

Scrolling on map was disabled for good reason. I think this is due to iDrive6 being more specific for those with the touchscreen.

Mine had it gone for a while. I want to say the March 2017 update.

I really liked that feature.
They shouldn't be disabling this for cars that don't have ID6 (touchscreen).
...and if they do decide to disable it, at least make it so You can turn it back on if You want to. Not possible with ID5. Maybe ID6 lite (interactive map)?

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by Dabozo

I really liked that feature.
They shouldn't be disabling this for cars that don't have ID6 (touchscreen).
...and if they do decide to disable it, at least make it so You can turn it back on if You want to. Not possible with ID5. Maybe ID6 lite (interactive map)?

Yeah have to go into interactive map mode in order to get the scrolling again. I think they did it because certain TBX's ( touch controller ) will have random scrolling due to sensitivity and hudmidity, and instead of fixing the TBX they disabled scrolling instead.

My car has ID6lite coded.

[stefan]

6hr of software updates today including the cluster recall. Kind of interesting.. my experience:

- less urgency, car seems a little lazier in all profiles
- exhaust overrun is almost inaudible, significantly reduced; total overrun time is probably halved.
- ASD... almost gone essentially. Can barely hear it.

Certainly not more power.

edit: new version is N18092I

more notes
- data privacy includes many more check boxes now.. be sure to go into this menu. It now includes "driving behaviour and habits" as auto submit to BMW
- Bluetooth seems more reliable and devices connect faster
- Map is faster
- comfort mode auto rev match is lazier: if you got used to it previously you will now need to be in Sport for rev match to be smooth
- still no "disable auto rev match" option
- comfort mode throttle sensitivity increased

[boostm3]

Originally Posted by stefan

6hr of software updates today including the cluster recall. Kind of interesting.. my experience:

- less urgency, car seems a little lazier in all profiles
- exhaust overrun is almost inaudible, significantly reduced; total overrun time is probably halved.
- ASD... almost gone essentially. Can barely hear it.

Certainly not more power.

Interesting; not exactly what we wanted to hear. .I mean, losing the snap, crackle, and pop from the overruns as well as its higher strung demeaner is a high price to pay for lessening the annoying ASD.

This so pisses me off. BMW always does this crap. I made another post about it elsewhere, but I faced similar crap with my 135i.. First or second 'mandatory' software update totally killed the throttle response and it changed the character of the vehicle that I bought.. The only way to bring it back was to purchase the PPK which at least I got them to cooperate on.

But seriously, when the basic character of the product we bought is changed, there should be hell to pay.

[Dabozo]

Originally Posted by stefan

6hr of software updates today including the cluster recall. Kind of interesting.. my experience:

- less urgency, car seems a little lazier in all profiles
- exhaust overrun is almost inaudible, significantly reduced; total overrun time is probably halved.
- ASD... almost gone essentially. Can barely hear it.

Certainly not more power.

I know the feeling. Its absolute BS on bmw's part. It's like selling you a Rolex and then while you are asleep they switch it out with a fossil watch. Ok, quite the exaggeration but u get the point. It's not right. And I would wager that they would be on shaky ground legally.
That being said, I've subsequently gotten a new update and it seems to be back to normal.
And the way you describe it is 100%- it's not so much that the pops and crackles are quieter (It was a bit quieter) but rather they are short lived.
As far as the power goes, I too thought it felt different but keep in mind the car has to relearn your driving manners (unless this does not apply to these cars).