05-10-2021, 11:20 AM | #1 |
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Dealer oil change used SAE 0w-20?
Just got the car back from the dealer and it looks like they used 0w-20 BMW oil for the oil change. I asked (since the sticker under the hood says 0w-30) and the SA mentioned its something new BMW transitioned to 0w-20? Is that true?
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05-10-2021, 01:22 PM | #2 |
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Newer stuff like the B58 runs 0W-20, N55 was never 0W-20, I would have it switched. They have 0W-30, I would guess they put the wrong fluid in. Don't let the SA give you the run around, typically they seem to know less about the individual models than a forum going owner.
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05-11-2021, 03:05 PM | #3 |
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Yup wrong oil weight, get it switched before it damages your engine.
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The whole reason bmw is moving to thinner oils and making FE oils is for emissions.
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05-12-2021, 06:40 AM | #7 |
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Thanks for the responses everyone. Booked an appointment with them to replace the oil with the recommended 0w-30 next Monday....with the whole lockdown still going on in Toronto they seem to be awfully fully booked these days.
I haven't/don't plan to drive it hard until then so I feel better it'll be OK for a week or two of gentle use still. |
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05-12-2021, 01:26 PM | #8 |
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Blow up probably not, excessive wear possibly if driven hard.
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05-13-2021, 09:57 PM | #10 |
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Do dealers even have that? I never found a non FE 0w30 oil at a dealer before, I don't even know if there is p/n for that.
There is 5W30 that is LL01 only though, so probably better to go with that if you can get them to agree: https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-2...synthetic-oil/ I know since the m2 has an underhood sticker that says 0w30 only, it might be hard to get an SA to agree.
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05-14-2021, 07:11 AM | #11 |
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I called and asked the SA if I could request 5w30 instead of 0w30 but my SA said they have to follow what is stated on the sticker under the hood (0w30) so thats a no go...
ironic because they put 0w20 in my car during the oil change which isn't whats on the sticker also... |
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In B58 now it says pretty much all grades are allowed, but stick to LL17FE, but if not LL01 (which your manual also says you can use). On top of that, BMW is now introducing LL19FE that has HTHS above 3.5 (basically improved LL04) bcs. they figured these thin oils are long-term issue. IMO, I would change it on my own. |
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BUT, BMW moved to Castrol again. How good will be Castrol product compared to SOPUS, we will see. SOPUS 5W30 LL01 was exceptional oil! If Castrol is just repacking their 5W30 that is LL01 approved, it is mediocre. |
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But the problem is now getting the dealer to do it. On the m2 owners manual it says consult the service center nothing about what oil weights are acceptable. Then the dealer always says do what the sticker says... So pretty much no choice, the people working st the dealer aren't enthusiasts they dont care.
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In Canada things are a bit different. Here we have Magnusson-Moss Act and dealers and vehicle manufacturers are not allowed to corner customers on stuff like this. Basically, from the moment you take ownership of a car, you could do oil change in the parking lot with LL01, and they cannot do anything about that. |
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They don't care about you doing the oil change but it's got to be documented and with the bmw stuff, unless you want a huge hassle getting warranty. Yup once it's out of warranty get that ll01 oil and do it yourself.
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MB229.71: fuel economy. BMW purposely made this very confusing. There is no engine that cannot use thicker oils. Otherwise, they would always prematurely wear out bcs. cold starts and city driving. LL01 is still used in B generation engines and BMW latest specification, LL19FE is actually HTHS above 3.5 which means heavy W30 and light W40 oils, basically improved LL04. |
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