[medphysdave]

Gas station desegregation

[Remonster]

Originally Posted by Poochie

I get your suspicion but does a limited production, 80k vehicle really need the publicity.. They can of sell themselves on the sheer prestige.

How well did that work for the existing CS models? I’m sure BMW thought they would sell themselves when they launched with lease residuals that were 10 percentage points worse than the standard M3 but they quickly had to adjust to residuals to match the normal M3 and then went further to offer smoking deals to move the remaining units.

Two people I know grabbed M3 CSs this month for about $780 a month with $2-3k down, not a bad deal at all for a car with the MSRP of the M3 CS.

The formula for making these CS models is pretty great, I struggle to imagine a more excellent fun-car than a manual M2 CS, but let’s hope the pricing, lease rates, etc. are more realistic this time so the cars sell well and we continue getting cars like this in the future.

I agree with the guy above to suspects this particular video is just a car-spotter who is respecting the BMW employee while trying to capture some nice footage for us interested fans.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Remonster

How well did that work for the existing CS models? I'm sure BMW thought they would sell themselves when they launched

You can't put the M3/M4 CS in the same category as the M2 CS.

BMW already had oversaturated the market with M4s and ZHP by the time the GTS and CS hit the sales floor. There was so many M4 already sold, the demand was just not there, as everyone that wanted one had it already. They are the most common M vehicle out.

I live in congested NYC where I see various different make of vehicles, yet I never encounter an M2 in the wild but spot an M4 every time I open my eyes.

The M2 is more a niche product and has a certain loyal cult that favor function over form, which pays off when it comes to securing an emotional sale. As a result, every M2 CS produced will be accounted for, as they did with the 1M before and probably be etched in history as a national treasure.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

On the marketing topic. I believe these forums are a reasonable tool to estimate interest. Talk of lists, what people want, like and don't like, etc. It's clear on this forum that Porsche is superior, and if you play in that pricing territory folks are going to jump from the BMW ship.
I'm sure they have someone that does nothing but monitor forums.

See here:

Originally Posted by Artemis

We may reasonably assume that BMW is not unfamiliar with the Bimmerpost forums.
A screenshot of one of my M2 posts featured in a behind-the-scenes video of the original M2 introduction (official live launch) through Periscope (see here and here).

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by Artemis

See here:

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by nbennettksu

Why are the boys out with a Merc?

AMG has like 5 variations of that car.

Another one is in the works.

Absolutely lovely car.

[Gorro47]

Still remember when my SA called me to see if i wanted a 1m that was there for some time.... and it was cheap, they are still selling for msrp or more here.

I look at a picture of the car and was like, noo it´s to small and bla bla bla, want to go back in time and kick my self...

M2CS please hurry up

[Project_F87]

Originally Posted by Remonster

How well did that work for the existing CS models? I’m sure BMW thought they would sell themselves when they launched with lease residuals that were 10 percentage points worse than the standard M3 but they quickly had to adjust to residuals to match the normal M3 and then went further to offer smoking deals to move the remaining units.

Two people I know grabbed M3 CSs this month for about $780 a month with $2-3k down, not a bad deal at all for a car with the MSRP of the M3 CS.

The formula for making these CS models is pretty great, I struggle to imagine a more excellent fun-car than a manual M2 CS, but let’s hope the pricing, lease rates, etc. are more realistic this time so the cars sell well and we continue getting cars like this in the future.

I agree with the guy above to suspects this particular video is just a car-spotter who is respecting the BMW employee while trying to capture some nice footage for us interested fans.

Sorry man, I have a hard time believing that CS deal you're claiming. Was it finance or lease?

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Project_F87

Sorry man, I have a hard time believing that CS deal you're claiming. Was it finance or lease?

I agree, now that you mention it.

Say it's a lease at $780 a month at 36 is 28k. That means on a 80k + CS, not even factoring in sales tax, they estimated the residual to be over 65%? :

Seeing is believing, prove us wrong..

[Project_F87]

Originally Posted by Poochie

I agree, now that you mention it.

Say it's a lease at $780 a month at 36 is 28k. That means on a 80k + CS, not even factoring in sales tax, they estimated the residual to be over 65%? :

Seeing is believing, prove us wrong..

Yeah there's no way hahah The regular M3 is leasing at around that much right now, let alone a CS

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Project_F87

Yeah there's no way hahah The regular M3 is leasing at around that much right now, let alone a CS

$780 is pretty low, but my local dealer recently had a CS on the showroom floor that was around ~18K off, and they were advertising a ~$900 a month lease payment IIRC.

Perhaps there are some desperate dealers out there that don't usually have and can't move these last few CS models...

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Miko M

Is it just me or does the rear fender look wider?

No need for even wider rear fenders: the M2 CS gets 19" 763M wheels front & rear.

M3/M4 CS got 19" 763M wheels front and 20" 763M wheels rear.

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by Artemis

No need for even wider rear fenders: the M2 CS gets 19" 763M wheels front & rear.

M3/M4 CS got 19" 763M wheels front and 20" 763M wheels rear.

What tire widths do you think that will translate to being stuffable under the M2CS? I plan to order a different color of the 763M. Can different offsets be ordered with factory wheels?

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

What tire widths do you think that will translate to being stuffable under the M2CS? I plan to order a different color of the 763M. Can different offsets be ordered with factory wheels?

I think F80 guys are running 295s easily on their 763Ms (I have them on my 666Ms) but I believe the F87 is a little tighter back there. But I recall seeing 285s without rubbing issues on some members' M2C.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

What tire widths do you think that will translate to being stuffable under the M2CS? I plan to order a different color of the 763M. Can different offsets be ordered with factory wheels?

Specs of the M2 M Performance wheels (black 19" 763M wheels + Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires):

• front: 9Jx19 ET29 (9.41kg/20.75lbs) + Cup 2: 245/35R19 93Y XL
• rear: 10Jx19 ET40 (9.89kg/21.80lbs) + Cup 2: 265/35R19 98Y XL

Earlier M2 CS prototypes have been spotted with those. Same wheel size and ET values and same tire size as those sporting the original M2 and M2 Competition.






(source: first post of this thread)

[medphysdave]

Would be interesting to to see if dealership would give a credit for both factory wheels and tires so I could get wider tires on the new wheels right from the start. Going to have to wheel and deal 😂

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Would be interesting to to see if dealership would give a credit for both factory wheels and tires so I could get wider tires on the new wheels right from the start. Going to have to wheel and deal 😂

Good luck with that!

[alavigne]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Would be interesting to to see if dealership would give a credit for both factory wheels and tires so I could get wider tires on the new wheels right from the start. Going to have to wheel and deal 😂

Up here in Canada, I tried that (and it was something simpler, which was to get them to deliver my car with silver 437Ms instead of the silver/black ones), and they politely declined.

[Woots]

Are we quite confident now that the CSL dream is dead? Even for the rumoured European market?

[IDBGOD]

Originally Posted by Project_F87

Yeah there's no way hahah The regular M3 is leasing at around that much right now, let alone a CS

+1

Got to love the grossly overexaggeration of people on the internet.

I'll gladly eat my words if he can provide me a copy of the lease contract of the claim. $780/month with 2-3k down for ANY CS...seems realistic.

$9300 in trunk money, plus give away discount and rebates....a nice savings for sure off sticker but not $780/month savings even from a desperate dealer.

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by alavigne

Up here in Canada, I tried that (and it was something simpler, which was to get them to deliver my car with silver 437Ms instead of the silver/black ones), and they politely declined.

They said they would order the gold wheels for me, swap them on arrival, and then give me credit for the black ones to make it only the cost of the difference if there is any. This is just talk though, and won't know until order time. It's probably just dependent on if the dealership is willing to carry the overhead of the wheels.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Specs of the M2 M Performance wheels (black 19" 763M wheels + Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires):

• front: 9Jx19 ET29 (9.41kg/20.75lbs) + Cup 2: 245/35R19 93Y XL
• rear: 10Jx19 ET40 (9.89kg/21.80lbs) + Cup 2: 265/35R19 98Y XL

Earlier M2 CS prototypes have been spotted with those. Same wheel size and ET values and same tire size as those sporting the original M2 and M2 Competition.

[IMG]https://bimmerpost.imgix.net/goodies...#38;crop=edges[/IMG]

[IMG]https://bimmerpost.imgix.net/goodies...#38;crop=edges[/IMG]

[IMG]https://bimmerpost.imgix.net/goodies...#38;crop=edges[/IMG]
(source: first post of this thread)

You had supplied a previous post illustrating that the Leipzig factory could only expand quarter panel so much due to the assembly line's limitations.

I'm not surprise the rear wheels didn't grow in size for the CS; they just going to have use more efficient tires within the 265s sizing..