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      11-06-2019, 11:21 AM   #507
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100k seems crazy until you realize its limited production. They'll all be gone within a few weeks.
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Bmw M pricing as of late is getting out of hand. $150k for the M8 comp and now $90k for M2 CS?? potential M2 cs customers might as well pony up a little extra for the 718 GT4 or 992 C2S instead. Even the C8 vette is a more attractive option and you save ~$20k.
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Was excited to see the sound videos to hear it! Until I pushed play... Seriously, that's it... I was hoping there would be some more 'umph', more throat, more... well, just more! Finally had time to read the specs last night. Not really sure what you are getting here aside from a piece of paper saying you have 1 of whatever number... The factory tune job is nice to have since some cars can be finicky with aftermarket tunes. But the rest seems pretty easy to obtain and put on an M2C... I thought these CS cars where supposed to be track cars or the closest thing to it... I think they should have up'd the power, installed a cage, put some coils on, ditched the HK stereo, air conditioning, big heavy suspension and drive bits. Basically, made it different, made it special beyond the limited number to have two more letters on the back.
I know some are speculating on the "collector" potential. I suppose you can buy one, never drive it & hand it down to your kids so they can find out... Yeah, it's a solid car! Not taking anything from it! I just wish BMW did more, and more with less, with it. Why just make a different version of the M2C? Make it unique! Now that the M cars are made on the same lines as their "standard variations" there should be plenty of room back at M to make unique cars. Make them all only available to European deliveries too 🤗👍🏼! Give the buyers something special for buying something special. Especially at what the price seems likely to be - that is a very stacked range with very, very good cars in it. It's like walking into a costume party late and realizing everyone there works at Dreamworks. The guys at most dealerships couldn't give two shits about how excited you are to get your new M car. They are such a buzz-kill. I was all jacked up to get my first M car and they could care less! Really kinda made the experience flat. I should have done Euro delivery while it still existed!
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  • Base price for the United Kingdom (source: BMW Group PressClub UK - see here):
    "Prices start from £75,320 OTR."
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In the UK the 718 Cayman GT4 is £28 more, though. (source: here):

What the hell are they thinking pricing this with a Cayman GT4?

This thing isn't even close to being on the same level.
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Of course the M2 CS base price for the US will be lower than the European price (€95K for Germany). US price is currently unknown yet.

My guesstimate was/is $85K as base price for the US (see here). I mean, if I were on the US market, I'd consider everything below $85K as a 'bonus' for this car. But don't take my guesstimate as gospel - I got zero information about the US price.
Comparing UK pricing with US pricing on M2C, M4, M4 vert. US msrp on those three models are about 15% more than UK.

M2CS £75,320 + 15% = about $86k (US base price)

If true...you will be able to option it over $100k before tax.
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What the hell are they thinking pricing this with a Cayman GT4?

This thing isn't even close to being on the same level.
100% agree. pay $20k more for 4.0L N/A mid-engine, 8k redline, dry sump, rev-match disable button, and the list goes on and on.... as a matter of fact, not even close might have been too kind to bmw
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What the hell are they thinking pricing this with a Cayman GT4?

This thing isn't even close to being on the same level.

100% agree. pay $20k more for 4.0L N/A mid-engine, 8k redline, dry sump, rev-match disable button, and the list goes on and on.... as a matter of fact, not even close might have been too kind to bmw
Maybe some people don't care for a Porsche but merely wants the highest tier M2.

With money to burn, I could see myself preferring the latter, or maybe even both..

It's narrow-minded to assume everyone thinks alike or have the same taste, it's a big world out there.
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Of course the M2 CS base price for the US will be lower than the European price (€95K for Germany). US price is currently unknown yet.

My guesstimate was/is $85K as base price for the US (see here). I mean, if I were on the US market, I'd consider everything below $85K as a 'bonus' for this car. But don't take my guesstimate as gospel - I got zero information about the US price.
Agree 100%! I'd buy one for $85,000, with a manual transmission!!!

Of course, it wouldn't stay Misano Blue for long. It would quickly become clothed in protective, San Marino Blue Autoflex paint.


That would be worth it.

I am considering now an alpine white m2 comp and getting the same auto flex paint in Lemans blue as a tribute to my daily driver .

I am first in line at a dealer with deposit but the pricing will be outside my reach
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Maybe some people don't care for a Porsche but merely wants the highest tier M2.
We are not saying everyone should by a GT4, people are free to buy whatever they like at whatever price. Obviously I am a BMW fan, as I am on this forum for years. None of this doesn't change the fact pricing is f*cked on this car. It is embarrassing to think BMW thinks their M2 CS should be priced within £28 of a GT4 in the UK. They have their heads so far up their ass.
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Maybe some people don't care for a Porsche but merely wants the highest tier M2.
We are not saying everyone should by a GT4, people are free to buy whatever they like at whatever price. Obviously I am a BMW fan, as I am on this forum for years. None of this doesn't change the fact pricing is f*cked on this car. It is embarrassing to think BMW thinks their M2 CS should be priced within £28 of a GT4 in the UK. They have their heads so far up their ass.
Fair enough but there is still a market for a high-end M2.

BMW is a company that has accountants watching accountants so they don't go broke; I'm sure there were folks that crunched the numbers and saw the demand for a such product. And just judging by the way the internet blew up since it's reveal, I'm guessing they were on the mark.
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The hood line can’t be uglier!

Hope next 2 Series doesn’t have it...
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the 1M has held value solely due to rarity... there is just about nothing special about that car... the M235i best it on just about every track lol
Fast track times do not special car make

People vote with their wallets when it comes to "specialness". 1M definitely qualifies there.
again... more than 740 cars to the USA... normal run and car is no lonnger special
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again... more than 740 cars to the USA... normal run and car is no lonnger special
I get that it was a limited production run. It was a special car nonetheless. Again, resale prices speak for itself.

A limited production run in of itself does not make a car special or else there would be lots of "special" BMW cars.
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again... more than 740 cars to the USA... normal run and car is no lonnger special
I get that it was a limited production run. It was a special car nonetheless. Again, resale prices speak for itself.

A limited production run in of itself does not make a car special or else there would be lots of "special" BMW cars.
dude the 1M was $48k brand new for a base model... it was an absolute bargain and was limited... that car was sold out before it hit showrooms; it was the smallest M car effectively for almost 20 years... now i would venture to say 1/3 of them are wrecked... its a very unique scenario for value but certainly not because it was a good car... it never handled well, was super twitchy and many argues that it was a bolt on 135i... the fact that a base m235i later came and beat it anywhere proved that; now its value is left solely due to rarity

cars.com currently shows 17 for sale; how do u think that will affect value?
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100% agree. pay $20k more for 4.0L N/A mid-engine, 8k redline, dry sump, rev-match disable button, and the list goes on and on.... as a matter of fact, not even close might have been too kind to bmw
The GT4 does not have dry sump engine...
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dude the 1M was $48k brand new for a base model... it was an absolute bargain and was limited... that car was sold out before it hit showrooms; it was the smallest M car effectively for almost 20 years... now i would venture to say 1/3 of them are wrecked... its a very unique scenario for value but certainly not because it was a good car... it never handled well, was super twitchy and many argues that it was a bolt on 135i... the fact that a base m235i later came and beat it anywhere proved that; now its value is left solely due to rarity

cars.com currently shows 17 for sale; how do u think that will affect value?
I considered buying a 1M as it sat on the dealer's floor over a month.
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I am considering now an alpine white m2 comp and getting the same auto flex paint in Lemans blue as a tribute to my daily driver .

I am first in line at a dealer with deposit but the pricing will be outside my reach

LOVE Lemans Blue. Had it on our e46 M3.

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So not sure if this is true or not. But iced called a bunch of dealers just inquiring about their waitlist policy. All require a deposit ($500 - $1000). But most have promised to sell at MSRP and for European delivery...of course, need to get that in writing.

But if this holds true, not sure if all dealers will be putting on ADMs
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dude the 1M was $48k brand new for a base model... it was an absolute bargain and was limited... that car was sold out before it hit showrooms; it was the smallest M car effectively for almost 20 years... now i would venture to say 1/3 of them are wrecked... its a very unique scenario for value but certainly not because it was a good car... it never handled well, was super twitchy and many argues that it was a bolt on 135i... the fact that a base m235i later came and beat it anywhere proved that; now its value is left solely due to rarity

cars.com currently shows 17 for sale; how do u think that will affect value?
I considered buying a 1M as it sat on the dealer's floor over a month.
yes, because the dealers were idiots and tried to mark it up; later realized people didnt want them after the massive hype bmw built around the baby m car... eventually all 740 were sold as all in all it was a very small number
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yes, because the dealers were idiots and tried to mark it up; later realized people didnt want them after the massive hype bmw built around the baby m car... eventually all 740 were sold as all in all it was a very small number
It was listed at MSRP.

The opportunity for a 997.2 GT3 arose, so I jumped on that instead.
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So not sure if this is true or not. But iced called a bunch of dealers just inquiring about their waitlist policy. All require a deposit ($500 - $1000). But most have promised to sell at MSRP and for European delivery...of course, need to get that in writing.

But if this holds true, not sure if all dealers will be putting on ADMs
This is accurate with my scenario. Put down a deposit years ago, and they sell at MSRP.
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