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      07-08-2019, 08:02 AM   #23
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there is a rear-end leak thread going on at CF dot com.. ohhhh boy..

I'll say this..

it's a tough task for the Corvette designers. They are of course budget constrained, and they are of course, part of Chevrolet. It's tough trying to make something exotic looking with Chevy budget.. so it ends up looking.. well... Chevyish..

I think it will end up growing on people. C7 rear caused uproar and people got over it and it sold in pretty good numbers.

The proof will be in the puddin (how it performs/drives). We have to wait on that a bit more.

I want it to be a good car. It's better for all of us if it is.
Thanks for the heads up re the leak. I subscribe to that forum, but havent been there in 12 hrs, and look what I missed! That thread is hysterical.. Love it, Hate it, Looks like Camaro, Whats with those tail lights and exhaust tips, Is it bonafide, etc, etc, etc. Whoever was responsible for the leak sure knew how to jazz up that community. The rear view was never the best angle with which to view this car, and that appears to be true for the C8 as well. Have to wait and see what the whole thing looks like.. The best renders have a butt that looks like that, but overall look incredible. Just 10 more days!
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Porsche sells the base 718 for $57k exported to the US. I think Chevrolet can get the pricing under $60k for the base if they want to. The Corvette has been providing 911 performance at Cayman prices for some time now.
caymans are 57k on the configurator but if you look at autotrader prices...most of them come to the dealership at 65kish...also the cayman platform is designed for 400hp powerish...versus the c8 which will probably start at 550ish and probably go up to 800-1000hp on the zr1 variant.

i still think they'll move the c8 prices in the 65k+ ish range and give the camaro some room.

The camaro zl1 is already 62k.
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caymans are 57k on the configurator but if you look at autotrader prices...most of them come to the dealership at 65kish...also the cayman platform is designed for 400hp powerish...versus the c8 which will probably start at 550ish and probably go up to 800-1000hp on the zr1 variant.

i still think they'll move the c8 prices in the 65k+ ish range and give the camaro some room.

The camaro zl1 is already 62k.
Oh sure, I was just saying that just because mid engine, the price doesn’t automatically go up 50%. I think $65k sticker for base model is a reasonable guess. Give it a couple years and you can get them for $10k off sticker. My 2017 listed for $66k but I paid just over $55k. As for Porsche, you can usually negotiate at least 5% off sticker, but I’d buy CPO to minimize the initial cost.
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i dont see the c8 being a 60k car even at the base. They mentioned it'll be closer to the current c7 pricing but they didn't mention which version. The c7 goes from 50k-120k so its a pretty wide range.

i can see GM taking the c7 platform give it the c8 styling and offer it as the 50-70k vette and use the mid engine version in the 80-140k Then offer maybe a higher trim level like a Le Mans edition to compete again the ford GT or just call it a different name using the c8 platform.

but yes if they can offer 60k v8 mid engine new...that would be a excellent deal long as the leases are decent on it.

as others said the c8 vette is more of a dedicated sports car..its not really a competitior for a sporty luxury car that can hold 4 ppl.
The Corvette C7 platform is done, per all published reports.

Could GM resurrect the C7? Anything's possible, I suppose. Likely? Probably not.

https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019...t-c7-corvette/
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Oh sure, I was just saying that just because mid engine, the price doesn’t automatically go up 50%. I think $65k sticker for base model is a reasonable guess. Give it a couple years and you can get them for $10k off sticker. My 2017 listed for $66k but I paid just over $55k. As for Porsche, you can usually negotiate at least 5% off sticker, but I’d buy CPO to minimize the initial cost.
I have no idea how the Corvette guys got GM to green-light this project. I have a hard time seeing how this is investment can be profitable in an era of declining sports car sales. I mean, they basically just killed the Camaro, which is a much easier sell. It's true that the Camaro unfortunately got beaten up and had its lunch money stolen by the Mustang in terms of sales, but I still don't get it. Glad it exists, but hard to see it being a strong seller at an even higher MSRP than C7.
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I have no idea how the Corvette guys got GM to green-light this project. I have a hard time seeing how this is investment can be profitable in an era of declining sports car sales. I mean, they basically just killed the Camaro, which is a much easier sell. It's true that the Camaro unfortunately got beaten up and had its lunch money stolen by the Mustang in terms of sales, but I still don't get it. Glad it exists, but hard to see it being a strong seller at an even higher MSRP than C7.
Im glad theyre doing it, but still, it seems like a huge gamble for GM, especially considering that their existing Vette customer/owner base is generally loathe to accept something even as small as a change in taillight shape, much less an entirely new vehicle design and configuration. My hunch is that theyre trying to open this up to a whole new market, while not totally alienating that in which theyve been established.. We shall see. .I hope it works; Id love to get me one in a couple of years if it all works out.
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Oh sure, I was just saying that just because mid engine, the price doesn’t automatically go up 50%. I think $65k sticker for base model is a reasonable guess. Give it a couple years and you can get them for $10k off sticker. My 2017 listed for $66k but I paid just over $55k. As for Porsche, you can usually negotiate at least 5% off sticker, but I’d buy CPO to minimize the initial cost.
i just think with the new mustang gt500 at $74k...GM is going to move the corvette more upmarket and have the camaro compete against the mustang and challenger. The camaro is already endanger...i think if they make the base too cheap it'll kill the camaro.

i agree the c8 will probably be a good buy off lease though.
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The Corvette C7 platform is done, per all published reports.

Could GM resurrect the C7? Anything's possible, I suppose. Likely? Probably not.

https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019...t-c7-corvette/
i thought it would be a good way to keep corvette buyers that doesnt care its mid engine and want a cheaper price...but they might just kill it off...move the corvette upmarket and have those other buyers buy higher end camaros.
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Thanks for the heads up re the leak. I subscribe to that forum, but havent been there in 12 hrs, and look what I missed! That thread is hysterical.. Love it, Hate it, Looks like Camaro, Whats with those tail lights and exhaust tips, Is it bonafide, etc, etc, etc. Whoever was responsible for the leak sure knew how to jazz up that community. The rear view was never the best angle with which to view this car, and that appears to be true for the C8 as well. Have to wait and see what the whole thing looks like.. The best renders have a butt that looks like that, but overall look incredible. Just 10 more days!
I happen to think the C7 was a really good looking car to be honest. But this C8 picture? Wow, this looks as bad as the Camaro facelift they botched and had to fix.

Off topic, but any more pics of your E36? Looks amazing in your signature. Got a Techno Violet myself
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I happen to think the C7 was a really good looking car to be honest. But this C8 picture? Wow, this looks as bad as the Camaro facelift they botched and had to fix.

Off topic, but any more pics of your E36? Looks amazing in your signature. Got a Techno Violet myself
Here you go.. BTW, the renders of the C8 that have been given the most credence are incredible.. Forget that rear view; I think the whole car will be salacious.

https://s11.photobucket.com/user/boostm3/library?page=1
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Just reading all the above comments on why GM might not be wise in doing this and everyone of us is now probably considering buying a C8 provided the reviews are as good as we expect.

Does the M2 CS even make sense at this point?

60k or even 70k with options and 10k beater like older Golf , if you need back seat would make more sense than the M2 CS .

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It certainly is a very intriguing package at that base price. I mean I thought I needed 2 rear seats and a 6MT but damn that price-to-performance (and price-to-buttons) ratio is pretty insane.

Even average interior build quality without the rear seats and stick isn't much of a deterrent when you're getting NA, mid-engine V8 at that price.
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the c8 will probably have a base price of 59999 with nothing on it. with the packages you want it'll probably be 70k. similar to how the f80 m3 was suppose start at $67k but all the ones you see on the dealer lot at like 80k.
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I'm a BMW and M2 guy to the fullest, but damn did Chevy just fuck every manufacturer and the price to performance ratio.
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The c8 looks like a bargain, if it's the type of car you want. Also, NA engine. How much longer will you be able to get that in sports car?
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The c8 looks like a bargain, if it's the type of car you want. Also, NA engine. How much longer will you be able to get that in sports car?
Seven years three months and two weeks from today.
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the c8 will probably have a base price of 59999 with nothing on it. with the packages you want it'll probably be 70k. similar to how the f80 m3 was suppose start at $67k but all the ones you see on the dealer lot at like 80k.
Wait two yours and you'll be getting $10k off no problem. These will be relatively high volume cars. None of the faux exclusiveness of the M2.
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Wait two yours and you'll be getting $10k off no problem. These will be relatively high volume cars. None of the faux exclusiveness of the M2.
nah i'm going to wait 3yrs off lease and pick one up for $35k
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no good cuz no manual

hopefully this drives the price of c7 z06 to go down
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Does the M2 CS even make sense at this point?
If you have a family or drive with more than one person or want something a little more livable.... yes.

However, if you're in the market for a Porsche Cayman/911, Toyota Supra, Z4, McLaren, Ferrari, NSX, Audi R8, Lambo, etc.... then I think smart money might be on the Corvette.

I've always dreamed of owning an exotic, but I just cant justify sinking $150-250k or more on a depreciating asset that requires a ton of maintenance and is hard to live with. Corvette just changed the formula. Obviously, for those who buy these cars just to show off their wealth, nothing changes, but I don't believe everyone is so braggadocious and pretentious.
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no good cuz no manual

hopefully this drives the price of c7 z06 to go down
I think they said no manual, at first..... so maybe later.

I don't think the c7 dct was liked much.
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I think they said no manual, at first..... so maybe later.

I don't think the c7 dct was liked much.
A8 in C7 was full auto, not DCT.

And yes, an unmitigated disaster...
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