[boss2k]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Sorry, meant to include a couple pics . . . brothers around these parts love the pics.

In complete honestly, not sure why BMW would put the ///M badge on this 235i?? Not as though it is a piece of shit . . . but it offers nothing in the way of a visceral driving experience.

///AVM

Like the color but car looks ugly imo

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by boss2k

Like the color but car looks ugly imo

Boss

You said it . . . and I agree.

///AVM

[boss2k]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Boss

You said it . . . and I agree.

///AVM

AVM , did you have the 718 GT4 which you sold, yesterday night was configuring one and the price was around 115K I love the car how it looks and have not driven yet , would like to know how others feel about GT4 , its around the same hp as M2C and has less torque

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by boss2k

AVM , did you had the 718 GT4 which you sold, yesterday night was configuring one and the price was around 115K I love the car how it looks and have not driven yet , would like to know how others feel about GT4 , its around the same hp as M2C and has less torque

Boss

I had 718 CGTS, not GT4.

That stated, I tested 981 GTS/GT4 with NAF6 . . . found the 718 T4 to be superior performance-wise.

Please do not interpret what I stated as anything not intended. . . 981 GTS/GT4 are fantastic sport cars!

I have not driven a 718 GTS 4.0 or GT4, so I cannot speak with any authority on how either performs . . . I have zero doubt they are both fantastic.

FYI, 718 GTS 4.0 and GT4 weigh about 3,150 and 3,200 lbs, respectively . . . while the M2C weighs about 3,600 lbs.

///AVM

P.S. If BMW does not hurry up and get me my G80 chassis, I might just go to plan B !

[boss2k]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Boss

I had 718 CGTS, not GT4.

That stated, I tested 981 GTS/GT4 with NAF6 . . . found the 718 T4 to be superior performance-wise.

Please do not interpret what I stated as anything not intended. . . 981 GTS/GT4 are fantastic sport cars!

I have not driven a 718 GTS 4.0 or GT4, so I cannot speak with any authority on how either performs . . . I have zero doubt they are both fantastic.

FYI, 718 GTS 4.0 and GT4 weigh about 3,150 and 3,200 lbs, respectively . . . while the M2C weighs about 3,600 lbs.

///AVM

P.S. If BMW does not hurry up and get me my G80 chassis, I might just go to plan B !

I am new to porsche and confused with all the models. Is your plan B Cayman GT4 in the green color?

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by boss2k

I am new to porsche and confused with all the models. Is your plan B Cayman GT4 in the green color?

Boss

If this were a Porsche forum I would happily provide you more detail . . . when it comes to the M2 subform on Bimmerpost, it seems there is an infatuation with the GT4, particularly among the M2 CS crowd.

So, in brief, I hope this helps you . . .

981 GTS and GT4 (NAF6)
718 GTS (T4)
718 GTS 4.0 and GT4 (NAF6)

The Python Green Porsche I showed in prior post (plan B) is a 718 GT4. . . as is pic below.

///AVM

[Fugly M3]

That python green is just !!!!!!!!!

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Sorry, meant to include a couple pics . . . brothers around these parts love the pics.

In complete honestly, not sure why BMW would put the ///M badge on this 235i?? Not as though it is a piece of shit . . . but it offers nothing in the way of a visceral driving experience.

///AVM

Given the FWD bias, I am not sure why BMW would put the BMW badge on that car!

[JCZ5]

@///AVM keep your Porsche love out of this thread. You know what it does to me...🥴.

...I have reached the phase where I am starting to entertain selling the M2C for one...maybe...

[BigKutta]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Boss

If this were a Porsche forum I would happily provide you more detail . . . when it comes to the M2 subform on Bimmerpost, it seems there is an infatuation with the GT4, particularly among the M2 CS crowd.

So, in brief, I hope this helps you . . .

981 GTS and GT4 (NAF6)
718 GTS (T4)
718 GTS 4.0 and GT4 (NAF6)

The Python Green Porsche I showed in prior post (plan B) is a 718 GT4. . . as is pic below.

///AVM

DROOOOOLLL!!!

[boss2k]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Boss

If this were a Porsche forum I would happily provide you more detail . . . when it comes to the M2 subform on Bimmerpost, it seems there is an infatuation with the GT4, particularly among the M2 CS crowd.

So, in brief, I hope this helps you . . .

981 GTS and GT4 (NAF6)
718 GTS (T4)
718 GTS 4.0 and GT4 (NAF6)

The Python Green Porsche I showed in prior post (plan B) is a 718 GT4. . . as is pic below.

///AVM

Thank you for educating me and i feel porsche models are very confusing and it will take me some time to get hold of them as i am getting interested in porsche although its out of my budget . I do need to get and drive one

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by boss2k

Thank you for educating me and i feel porsche models are very confusing and it will take me some time to get hold of them as i am getting interested in porsche although its out of my budget . I do need to get and drive one

Boss

Nothing wrong with aspiring to own a Porsche sport car. . . they are simply the best.

I am on a Porsche holiday . . . enjoying what BMW has to offer.

Love sharing the enthusiasm with brothers, whether Porsche or BMW.

///AVM

[boss2k]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Boss

Nothing wrong with aspiring to own a Porsche sport car. . . they are simply the best.

I am on a Porsche holiday . . . enjoying what BMW has to offer.

Love sharing the enthusiasm with brothers, whether Porsche or BMW.

///AVM

Curious why would you consider a GT4 over a spyder, both are same cars except spyder is a convertible

[medphysdave]

@AVM New M3 is using an interesting brake caliper design. I can't tell if the pads are easily swappable and if they are 6 or 8 pistons. Anyone know if this is still a brembo caliper?

[keylime503]

Problem with 718 GT4 is the gearing is bonkers, you can barely use 3rd gear on the roads and forget about 4th/5th/6th!

[GarageMadness]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Sorry, meant to include a couple pics . . . brothers around these parts love the pics.

In complete honestly, not sure why BMW would put the ///M badge on this 235i?? Not as though it is a piece of shit . . . but it offers nothing in the way of a visceral driving experience.

///AVM

I feel compelled to get groceries at the supermarket so I can blend in with all the other cars out there

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by boss2k

Curious why would you consider a GT4 over a spyder, both are same cars except spyder is a convertible

Boss

I am not a fan of convertibles, so I have never considered purchasing one.

///AVM

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

@AVM New M3 is using an interesting brake caliper design. I can't tell if the pads are easily swappable and if they are 6 or 8 pistons. Anyone know if this is still a brembo caliper?

Dave

I honestly have no idea, but we both know who will be all over this question . . . Poochie, you are up brother.

///AVM

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by keylime503

Problem with 718 GT4 is the gearing is bonkers, you can barely use 3rd gear on the roads and forget about 4th/5th/6th!

Key

This matter of 'long gearing' comes up a lot with Porsche.

When I drive - whether Porsche or BMW - I want my car wrung out. Getting in or out of any particular gear has never been a concern, nor objective.

So, even in my M2C, I live in 2nd and 3rd gears on the common roadways . . . just as I did with my 718 CGTS, and would if I owned a GT4.

My daily commute to the hospital includes a 12 mile stretch on I-95. During that highway stretch I live in 4th gear, occasionally shifting into 5th gear.

So, I am left to conclude that some drivers enjoy driving 'wrung out,' while others do not. I am not going to suggest there is a right or wrong.

However, given the common complaint about 'long gearing' in various Porsche models, it seems most drivers prefer to get into a higher gear than live higher in the rev band (wrung out). . . I prefer that latter.

///AVM

[///AVM]

One thing I will say about driving the M235i that has me 'concerned' about the G80 M3C is the electronic gauge cluster.

I am so accustomed - and much prefer - the analog gauges. Just give me an old-fashioned speedometer and tachometer.

Like most other things, I will adjust over time . . . in the short time I had the M235i, however, I found the electronic gauge cluster extremely unsatisfying.

///AVM

[bri1042]

We have a version of that gauge cluster in my SO's 530e. He's quite used to it, but I mostly ignore it and the HUD gives me what I need when I drive the comfy boat.

[JCZ5]

Originally Posted by keylime503

Problem with 718 GT4 is the gearing is bonkers, you can barely use 3rd gear on the roads and forget about 4th/5th/6th!

This is one of those "issues" that is far more overblown than what it actually is. The question is do you rev out your M2C to redline in every gear, everytime?

If you really look at the ethos of the GT4, it is supposedly a race car. In that case, on the track it is beneficial to have taller gearings. Regardless, in real world driving it does not present an issue. Pundits have to say something negative about the car and this happens to be it.

In fact, I know how much enthusiasts appreciate Doug Demuro. He himself even said this was arguably the best car he has driven...or something along those lines.