[Grock]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

MEH. the 1M was more of an M car than the M3, imo....the spirit is more important than the criteria.

Have you lost touch with reality?

[Uneedthis2]

As some have said, I'm not holding my breath! I'll wait for Scott to chime in. I'd love for this to happen though!

[providence]

Never doubted the M2 would be a reality. 6 or 4 cyl, its gonna be great! Although I thought that the arguement for the 4 banger was more convincing/ progressive.
What I dont buy is the limitted production speculation. I think that would be a blunder on BMW's part. (unless the MSRP is waaay north of what we're expecting).

[ska///235i]

So far 4 pages of talk on unconfirmed news...nice

[flyga3]

Originally Posted by ska325xi

So far 4 pages of talk on unconfirmed news...nice

+10

[MuNkY6913]

Originally Posted by Grock

Have you lost touch with reality?

hahaha, 1M is alot better than the M3 clunkers. If they ever catch up they still think they have the best. i guess ignorance is bliss. hahahahaha

[BMW269]

S55 is OK. S48 is even better IMO. But N55? Never. Not ///M worthy.

[Mark's M]

Originally Posted by Esteban15

nothing to confirm anything so far..rumors upon rumors..thats my take..but expect a M2...manual only in 2016 stripped down to 75,000...and starting adding up
limited production too...okay that's my take...nothing confirmed on anything..

Uh...yeah...ok.

[M4Trojan]

very interesting. I'm curious to see the numbers on this thing...output, weight and price. Could be enticing, but i'll probably end up sticking with an F8x.

[Venom]

As much as I love the inline 6. I really hope it comes with an M engineered S designated engine. This news is rather disappointing. Hopefully it isn't true. I was looking forward to an "S20". Or an untuned s55.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

MEH. the 1M was more of an M car than the M3, imo....the spirit is more important than the criteria.

Seriously ?

All righty then

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by Levi

S55 is OK. S48 is even better IMO. But N55? Never. Not ///M worthy.

Bingo!

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by Grock

Have you lost touch with reality?

the 1M was probably as fun of an M car as possible in 2011.....and hopefully the M2 will carry that tradition further!

[Jockey]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Nimbleness, agility, always sufficient power on demand, a touch of lightness and swb , those things will make an M2 stand out, just like the 1M did and still does vs the bigger heavier other M cars. It certainly is about the spirit and not about criteria wether a 4 or a 6. I prefer a 6: the 1M is a fine example of what M can do.
True sportiness, not topheavy stuff
I want an M2 with a 6 inside.


Cheers
Robin

Exactly. I would love to see an NA I6 but I know that's not going to happen and I was not excited at all about a FI I4.

So I'm happy with this. I was going to wait 2 years for my next car so this might hit it perfectly.

[woo1]

I'd prefer the S55 or the N54 to the N55. Oh well. I'm glad it's a 6.

[ynguldyn]

Sorry to disappoint, but my source has never been wrong. The only thing that's not guaranteed is transition from engineering to production: not every car makes it. But if the source says N55 - it will be N55. I'm willing to bet real money on this.

[Evooooo]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

Anyone that had the N54 (myself included) would be able to tell you that these engines, while rated the same, were not the same in reality. N54 > N55 and now the N55 is getting long in the tooth.

Plus, generally people want something different (aka special) in an M car.

This was possible with the 1M because the internals started out stronger with the N54 to begin with, and then the M guys made more upgrades.

Similar with the S55 in the new M3/4 - significant changes to the original N55, which would be necessary for those levels of power.

My current N55, while a good engine, seems to run out of breath much sooner than my N54. No one wants that in an M2.

Just my $.02

While I agree they do run out of breathe quickly because I had an N55, it only had 1 small single. Where as the n54 had 2 turbos. I don't know that the limits of the n55 have really been tested to say the n54 is a stronger motor. Yes they have made 730whp or something like that which is absolutely amazing, but the n55 has not been pushed that far yet. Id love to see the N55 pushed further to see what it caps out at, which they are doing but it is taking forever!

[pkimM3r]

Uh oh. This is news ive been waiting for!!

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Sorry to disappoint, but my source has never been wrong. The only thing that's not guaranteed is transition from engineering to production: not every car makes it. But if the source says N55 - it will be N55. I'm willing to bet real money on this.

very cool. do you ever get information about timing and/or progress in development? or just combinations of development?

you've made plenty of people happy with this post though....a lot of us were hoping for an N55 or inline-6 combination in the M2. Hopefully it's this combined with some significant weight savings off the 'too-heavy' M235 and we will get a successor to the glorious 1M!

[Ramos]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Sorry to disappoint, but my source has never been wrong. The only thing that's not guaranteed is transition from engineering to production: not every car makes it. But if the source says N55 - it will be N55. I'm willing to bet real money on this.

Most on this thread have missed your link in your OP that mentions that this will be a higher tune rendition of the N55 to be shared with the X4 40i and I'm guessing other future 40i designated M performance models (maybe an M440i)

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

very cool. do you ever get information about timing and/or progress in development? or just combinations of development?

I can only make an educated guess here. Typically my info comes about 1-1.5 years before BMW makes the models public, so I would expect something like mid-2015 intro as MY2016.

[swifty]

If i upgrade (or down grade) from the m3 I rather go with this than the F80. F80 is just way too big to toss around in town or the back roads.