[MooMooM2]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy's Dodge

I recently bought an E92 M3 to compliment my OG M2, and quickly realized the N55 and S55 are both garbage compared to the S65.


Everything is relative.

in the spirit of this thread someone will say about the no torque on the S65 lol

[asiflicious]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

Having owned a M235i with N55 for 3 1/2 years, I'm quite familiar with the 2 series/OG seats. They are softer for sure but they don't have nearly the support. The M2C seats fit my body like a glove when dialed in. I think the M2C seats are far superior and I'm not alone in my opinion. It is of course subjective.
The M2C's S55 (tuneability), humongous brakes, braced front end, enhanced M modes, cool seats, M mirrors etc. make the M2C a value package.
People can like it or not but those things are true.

Yup. Sitting in my best friends F82 M4 made me really realize how great those seats are. They hold you in SO MUCH better than the OG seats. Anyone that says it’s just cosmetics is delusional

[rcouchh]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy's Dodge

I recently bought an E92 M3 to compliment my OG M2, and quickly realized the N55 and S55 are both garbage compared to the S65.


Everything is relative.

S65 sounds great, but is not the most reliable and hardly 350whp/260tq. Even with a supercharger and tons of money thrown at it you hardly get to 450whp. An iconic, but not great motor. Certainly doesn't compare to the S55 in terms of potential. S58 blows them all out of the water considering it's bulletproof and 600whp with just a tune/dps.

[murderspice]

Originally Posted by rcouchh

S65 sounds great, but is not the most reliable and hardly 350whp/260tq. Even with a supercharger and tons of money thrown at it you hardly get to 450whp. An iconic, but not great motor. Certainly doesn't compare to the S55 in terms of potential. S58 blows them all out of the water considering it's bulletproof and 600whp with just a tune/dps.

Nobody buys an e92 or f87 because they give a fck about what is faster/more powerful than them.

[MooMooM2]

I agree, not everything is HP. I would say 99% here don't even need 200 whp. The more power therefore better is such a simplistic way of thinking, its like the 0-60 faster therefore better.

Not to mention plenty of e9x doing great numbers at the track, with the right setup those cars are mighty fast, once up on the RPMs they maintain the speed just fine.

But I guess if you just chasing the power number then sure s58 blows them all out of the water

[///MPhatic]

I never understood chasing power in the F87 because the platform is obviously bent towards being playful. I also don't think I'm alone in that assessment, judging by all the reviews saying the same thing, and that the stock power was more than adequate.

I did take the low-hanging fruit (intercooler, downpipe, tune), but the car isn't any more fun because of it IMO.

[AlpsRider]

I guess maybe I'm in the minority then. I didn't think anything could give me the thrill of motorcycle acceleration until I drove a tuned M2C 6mt. WOW! that 500+ ftlb of torque throws me back in the seat and puts a smile on my face without risking body and limb from a motorcycle. There is something to be said about the feeling of raw torque, even if you can only use it for a few seconds. I realize some people are actually afraid of that much power but I'm not one of them.

[MooMooM2]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

I guess maybe I'm in the minority then. I didn't think anything could give me the thrill of motorcycle acceleration until I drove a tuned M2C 6mt. WOW! that 500+ ftlb of torque throws me back in the seat and puts a smile on my face without risking body and limb from a motorcycle. There is something to be said about the feeling of raw torque, even if you can only use it for a few seconds. I realize some people are actually afraid of that much power but I'm not one of them.

have you ever driven an EV? if you like instant high torque you can't beat an EV.

It gets old quick though

[m2ss]

Originally Posted by MooMooM2

if you like instant high torque you can't beat an EV.

Yup, silent but deadly...

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by MooMooM2

have you ever driven an EV? if you like instant high torque you can't beat an EV.

It gets old quick though

Some guys like that one-trick pony thing. It's all good. I'd take my Exige in the corners feeling over any EV on the planet's 0-100.