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Just like a condom, sometimes it's going to break.. When the time comes, change it and move on.. However, I don't trust any of the aftermarket companies that currently manufacture aluminum pipe and silicone coupler, so I'll stick to OEM.. If it crack, it cracks, like whatever.. |
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Do people feel masata gear is any good? Evolve did a recent quick product over view on YT of N55 chargepipe, looked ok but the finish to me always looks odd like it's slippery lol.
Imran mentioned CNC machined end adaptor points but don't really know what is standard anyway? |
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The FTP pipe is fine, and a good compromise between cost and functionality. I replaced the meth bung plugs that I mentioned above, and the terrible cheap jubilee clamps with upgraded parts (and sold them with it), which made it much better. What I didn't like about it, and the only reason I sold it, is that the upper meth bung is pointing directly at the TMAP sensor. This makes it totally unusable, and is simply not well thought out. As soon as the water / meth injection starts, it sprays onto the TMAP sensor and gives an artificially low temperature reading. In extreme cases, like flooring it from a standstill, this would put the engine in limp mode because of an unfeasible change in IAT over such a short duration. I swapped mine for an ER product, and I think theirs is the best charge pipe available for the N55. A little more expensive, but the quality is top notch, and the meth bungs are in a much better location. Yes, all the end adaptors on charge pipes that I've ever seen are CNC machined... nothing new there.
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Thanks for that info, sort of confirms my gut feeling that masata is a lower rate part.
The evolution is well regarded but overpriced for what it is. I'm probably between ftp, forge and do88 |
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FTP = Masata... If you're thinking FTP, make sure to budget for the screws and clamps to make it better. Also don't buy if you're ever going to do WMI (which I strongly recommend by the way - don't know why it seems to have a stigma).
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I'm not doing wmi seems mad to me the whole extra tank complication and stuff. I love my car sure and modding it but it's my daily!
NVM in the UK have a stage three M2 N55 at 600+bhp. In one of their videos they installed a forge charge pipe, I asked why and they said they only use products they trust. I've used a forge intake before and it was well made tbf So between them and do88 now! |
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I've seen the NVM post and I'm thinking of getting in touch with them. I'm not expecting to get anywhere near the 600 bhp that they get, but the big turbo kit looks really interesting. My biggest concern right now is the lag between shifts with 6MT... that will likely have a bigger impact that the extra power anyway!
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I wouldn't think it would be something you'd want to 'let slide' though.
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FWIW - Dinan no longer has any relation to Steve Dinan. It is owned (through a layer or two) by a private equity firm. (The same company also owns APR, for what it's worth.) TL;DR on that link - PE firms are generally just out to make money for themselves. They don't really care about your car. They don't care about what their parts (or software) might do to your car. They tend to buy companies and turn them into lifeless husks over some period of time, making buckets for the PE firm's ownership / management along the way. I'm not gonna outwardly trash talk Dinan as I have no direct experience with anything they do. I have indirect experience with APR and have seen some of their cost-cutting measures (with hardware) and have spoken to "people knowledgeable in the field" (of ECU tuning) who have not had anything great to say about APR on the software front either. Just my $2, but I would not ever spend money on car products from a company that's owned by a PE firm. Quote:
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Regardless of who is now behind the helm at Dinan doesn't concern me, their name speak for itself. They where making the same quality of products they did 15 years, as they are 15 seconds. So if a PE owns the name now, like, whatever, they're doing a great job keeping the lineage going.. Do a search for aftermarket charge pipes for the N55 and you'll only find a bunch of no-name companies that I barely heard of, selling such a piece. Alls I'm saying, I would feel a little more comfortable putting a reputable, like Dinan, brand of product, in my vehicle. |
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Well...I heard a pop on my way home from work yesterday and the car went into limp mode shortly thereafter. Got home and checked under hood the cracked charge pipe got me!
A couple questions. I bought my 2017 used last October. It's still under warranty, but I have no idea what the previous owner did to the car. From my relatively amateur inspection of the car, it seems to be stock. I assumed it was stock, but how can I make sure, before bringing it into the dealership for repair? If it's been tuned, isn't there a box placed somewhere under the hood? What are the obvious things to look out for? Thanks in advance for the help! |
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From me experience the dealer didn't even check anything, but mine isn't tuned or has bolt on parts (downpipe/intake) but a tune can't be discovered just by looking at the engine, they have to connect to it in order to find out (which I don't see any reason for them to do it). Plus just so you know changing things using the warranty is actually in their interest because BMW pays for the labor and parts (at least where I'm from and it's usually everywhere like that). So as long as you don't have anything you know of that you can see you shouldn't worry at all |
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