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      11-20-2019, 11:32 PM   #67
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Give us the US pricing already!!!

So I can get back to reality as I will not be able to afford and/or order one
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lol

So people are actually hoping for a price that won’t be absolutely ridiculous? Do we live on the same planet?

Because $98k for the M3 CS was reasonable, right?

News flash: this car won’t be priced under $80k. I’d say $85k+ is more likely.
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That colour combo is hideous
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no cf roof for the auto show reveal, lol
Look again:

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It's difficult to see this in the photos but in person I was surprised that the CF roof had a different and larger pattern that the other CF bits. Was this the case with the M3/M4?
M3/4 has a different style carbon fiber roof skin, as well as gloss black roof rails.

Even the M Performance Carbon Fiber roof skin available for the M2 is different. It also has roof rails.
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Love the 22B. What a car.
The M2cs is every bit as much of a future legend. So the colour combination is... perplexing.
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I'm just here to tell you all that I still don't like the car.

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Video review from Autogefühl is also live, enjoy all the details

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Video review from Autogefühl is also live, enjoy all the details

Ok so it's going to be $85000 US because he said it's about 33,000 Euros more there. It's not worth it. I can go spend less and go buy a mid engine corvette or the new GT500 both of which will be faster and better and make me feel like I got my money's worth. This car should be no more than $68 to 70k. BMWs greed is going to catch up with them.
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Ok so it's going to be $85000 US because he said it's about 33,000 Euros more there. It's not worth it. I can go spend less and go buy a mid engine corvette or the new GT500 both of which will be faster and better and make me feel like I got my money's worth. This car should be no more than $68 to 70k. BMWs greed is going to catch up with them.
Of course it will catch up because it will sell as a discount later on. The few must haves will pay full msrp or more and then the remaining will just sit on the lots. Same thing happened with the M4 CS and GTS cars.

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Ok so it's going to be $85000 US because he said it's about 33,000 Euros more there. It's not worth it. I can go spend less and go buy a mid engine corvette or the new GT500 both of which will be faster and better and make me feel like I got my money's worth. This car should be no more than $68 to 70k. BMWs greed is going to catch up with them.
Of course it will catch up because it will sell as a discount later on. The few must haves will pay full msrp or more and then they will just sit on the lots. Same thing happened with the M4 CS and GTS cars.
I have the same suspicion. Even the Leadership of my local M store is not too optimistic about the pricing in NA....and they are enthusiasts of the brand and own Ms .....
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Wonder if m2cs can be retrofitted with mp has... that wheel gap
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That colour combo is hideous
That is an understatement.

So disappointing...
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Every time I hear the exhaust, I cringe. The e92 M3 guys must be dying laughing.
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Every time I hear the exhaust, I cringe. The e92 M3 guys must be dying laughing.

The exhaust sound is definitely an acquired taste but at this juncture, it doesn't make sense to complain.

Just accept it for what it is since the new S58 sounds identical, so it's here to stay for the long run..
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Every time I hear the exhaust, I cringe. The e92 M3 guys must be dying laughing.
Yeah, definitively....but as others said, sadly it wont get better in future, probably only worser...
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Of course it will catch up because it will sell as a discount later on. The few must haves will pay full msrp or more and then the remaining will just sit on the lots. Same thing happened with the M4 CS and GTS cars.
While I agree that initial sales may be as disappointing as the M3 CS, don’t forget that the M2 CS comes in 6MT whereas the M3 CS did not.

That does make a difference. One of the things that steered many purists (and I emphasize purists) away from the M3 CS was lack of manual. Me, for example. I love the M3 CS, but no manual option was a complete deal breaker.

I feel this is one of the big reasons why the demand for the M2 CS will be higher, even if by a small margin. That’s not to say that it won’t be overpriced and eventually discounted.
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And what's with the comparisons to corvettes, mustangs, etc. they are completely different cars and do BMW owners really cross shop them? They must not b/c for example the corvette has so many "options" I can see the base price + options easily exceeding $100K.


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As for the exhaust note, it is terrible.

What people are forgetting is that every single non-V8 ///M car ever built had a terrible exhaust note.

However, BMW often made up for that with great induction noise. The e46 M3 CSL exhaust sounds raspy and horrible, but the intake noise overshadows that by a long shot.

It is arguably the best induction noise I ever heard on a production car.

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As for the exhaust note, it is terrible.

What people are forgetting is that every single non-V8 ///M car ever built had a terrible exhaust note.

However, BMW often made up for that with great induction noise. The e46 M3 CSL exhaust sounds raspy and horrible, but the intake noise overshadows that by a long shot.

It is arguably the best induction noise I ever heard on a production car.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/11/21/b...clusive-video/

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That does make a difference. One of the things that steered many purists (and I emphasize purists) away from the M3 CS was lack of manual. Me, for example. I love the M3 CS, but no manual option was a complete deal breaker.
I kept forgetting why the M4 CS never really appealed to me, even as a "maybe" car - its lack of a manual transmission option..

The M2 CS would have a lot less hoopla had it been DCT only and the BMW knows this, hence the reason why they keep emphasizing the 6 speed option in all the press releases and interviews.
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