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      07-11-2019, 11:40 AM   #45
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The LCI gauge isn't digital, It's analog just like the pre-LCI one. You can see that easily in the correct lighting. There is no greater chance of it failing than there is of the old style gauge failing.

ah got it...i thought the needles were analog and the faces were digital
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      07-11-2019, 11:42 AM   #46
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The gauges on the lci are analogue too, just cleverly tinted to appear blanked out when switched off.
which sux because what happens if the backlight fails.
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      07-11-2019, 11:47 AM   #47
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What about scratchability? Its well known that the LCI gauges scratch as soon as you look at them.
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which sux because what happens if the backlight fails.
What kind of argument is that? What happens if the backlight fails on the pre LCI? You wouldn't be able to read the dials at night or in a tunnel! Both would still need to be fixed urgently.
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      07-11-2019, 12:07 PM   #49
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What kind of argument is that? What happens if the backlight fails on the pre LCI? You wouldn't be able to read the dials at night or in a tunnel! Both would still need to be fixed urgently.
you can read the dials in the day time on the pre-lci since its just a gray gauge face. As another poster pointed out...the lci has tinted gauges which look blackouted when the backlight is off. Both would need to be replaced but at least with the pre-lci you would be able to drive around during the day.

This would be more relevant to people who drive 6spd manual. Obviously if you drove DCT it wouldnt matter since the computer shifts for you and use can use the navi as the speedo.
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you can read the dials in the day time on the pre-lci since its just a gray gauge face. As another poster pointed out...the lci has tinted gauges which look blackouted when the backlight is off. Both would need to be replaced but at least with the pre-lci you would be able to drive around during the day.

This would be more relevant to people who drive 6spd manual. Obviously if you drove DCT it wouldnt matter since the computer shifts for you and use can use the navi as the speedo.
Youbcan set the digital display to show speed as well in that case
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      07-11-2019, 12:18 PM   #51
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Youbcan set the digital display to show speed as well in that case
or i can just use my phone for speed via torque app or gps. i'm not really worried about speed. i'm more worried able the tach since i drive 6spd.
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you can read the dials in the day time on the pre-lci since its just a gray gauge face. As another poster pointed out...the lci has tinted gauges which look blackouted when the backlight is off. Both would need to be replaced but at least with the pre-lci you would be able to drive around during the day.

This would be more relevant to people who drive 6spd manual. Obviously if you drove DCT it wouldnt matter since the computer shifts for you and use can use the navi as the speedo.
Since LED lights practically last forever it is very likely that if the backlight goes out the whole panel would likely blank out.
I still maintain that with the pre LCI or not it would need to be urgently fixed. The argument doesn't hold water.
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or i can just use my phone for speed via torque app or gps. i'm not really worried about speed. i'm more worried able the tach since i drive 6spd.
Ha. I'm more worried about where this thread is heading.

What if!

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What if...the differential goes out in the pre-LCI?Many of those cars had to have the rear end replaced because of the famous "soda can crunch" noise. Who's to say that' one of the originals might not fail after the warranty is up...what if.
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or i can just use my phone for speed via torque app or gps. i'm not really worried about speed. i'm more worried able the tach since i drive 6spd.
You mean that you can't shift your MT without a tach? I don't even look at my tach when I shift my MT. Listen to the engine!
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What about scratchability? Its well known that the LCI gauges scratch as soon as you look at them.
They all scratch as soon as you look at them, just name your make and model, it's the same story. Just like the piano black trim on the dash, it is a ridiculous material for a dusty car interior.
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or i can just use my phone for speed via torque app or gps. i'm not really worried about speed. i'm more worried able the tach since i drive 6spd.
You can play by ear for that
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They all scratch as soon as you look at them, just name your make and model, it's the same story. Just like the piano black trim on the dash, it is a ridiculous material for a dusty car interior.
I thought this was just an LCI thing.
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I am probably in a minority here but I prefer everything on the pre lci including the dash layout(not lopsided with a carbon panel to nowhere, no fake plastic stitching), classic dials (in future when everyone has lcd this will be a killer feature), the rear light clusters and the classic daytime running light roundrels. Each to his own though!

Happy days whatever you decide but for me MT and the sunroof is a must. I open mine everyday even in the rain so I get to hear my MPE!
I thought I was alone in preferring Pre-LCI interior! I do like the LCI head and taillights. May pick up a set of Euro LCI tails to retrofit later, but the price of the headlight retrofit......makes that a hard pass.
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All things being equal I want the LCI (really like the gauges, a one year newer model for warranty purposes and a sunroof, if optioned).

Curious what others would pick, assuming the following cars are identically priced:

2017 CPO with 9K miles
2018 non-CPO with 16K miles

Both with exec package, and no sunroof on the 2018.
FWIW, I ended up purchasing the 2017 CPO, mostly for convenience. It was at a BMW dealer an hour away whereas the 2018 LCI was 4 hours away, out of state, at a non-BMW dealer.

The dealer ran the VIN of both cars and the 2018's in service date was only 5 months later, so the CPO is effectively giving me 7 more months of warranty.

Ultimately I was pressed for time, after my 135i was totaled, I needed a car sooner than later.
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You mean that you can't shift your MT without a tach? I don't even look at my tach when I shift my MT. Listen to the engine!
i'm not as much of a race car driver as you
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Since LED lights practically last forever it is very likely that if the backlight goes out the whole panel would likely blank out.
I still maintain that with the pre LCI or not it would need to be urgently fixed. The argument doesn't hold water.
its my personal opinion not the the gospel...lol
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Since this thread was brought from the dead I'll chime in with my preference:

I prefer everything about the pre-LCI interior including the old school gauges. I don't see the lights as significant improvement. Sure, the new ones will look less dated in 10 years but I really don't care.

If I was looking for a used M2 I would focus on manual transmission, mileage, price, and MPE in this order.
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i like the analog style gauges better then the digital one. I also plan on keeping the m2 for a long time and i have no confidence in german electronics...I just hate the fact BMW didn't use white leds behind the gauges independent of the ambient sensor. My 2004 civic had white led lights that were on all the time and adjustable via dimmer. i also didn't want the sun roof to save on weight.
There is no digital one, yet. The LCI is analogue, just backlit so it's easier to see.
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What kind of argument is that? What happens if the backlight fails on the pre LCI? You wouldn't be able to read the dials at night or in a tunnel! Both would still need to be fixed urgently.
you can read the dials in the day time on the pre-lci since its just a gray gauge face. As another poster pointed out...the lci has tinted gauges which look blackouted when the backlight is off. Both would need to be replaced but at least with the pre-lci you would be able to drive around during the day.

This would be more relevant to people who drive 6spd manual. Obviously if you drove DCT it wouldnt matter since the computer shifts for you and use can use the navi as the speedo.
But you would replace them either way, so why would it really make a difference?
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I like the taillights on the LCI - thatís about it
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