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      12-13-2019, 09:57 AM   #8735
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He is a troll politician. It is so so so sad that someone this horrible has followers. But in this day being a troll works and wins elections and gets you lots of money. This is our world! Yay
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      12-13-2019, 10:02 AM   #8736
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He is a troll politician. It is so so so sad that someone this horrible has followers. But in this day being a troll works and wins elections and gets you lots of money. This is our world! Yay
I remember all of the right wing troll/conspiracy theorists who thought Obama was going to assert power and become POTUS for life. It was looped into the whole Jade Helm conspiracy. If something like this would have occurred then people's heads would have popped off.
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I remember all of the right wing troll/conspiracy theorists who thought Obama was going to assert power and become POTUS for life. It was looped into the whole Jade Helm conspiracy. If something like this would have occurred then people's heads would have popped off.
It's not POTUS for life at that point. It's Maximum Ruler for Life. Let'm make sure we are getting the titles right. It's important!!
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      12-13-2019, 10:40 AM   #8738
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Canít even tell whatís satire at this point.
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Canít even tell whatís satire at this point.
It started the at 8PM ET on 2016 election night when they realized SHE wasn't going to win and hasn't abated in the slightest since then.
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Tha Chaddening huh? I had you pegged for a gymcel. Maybe not a cel at all, but likely pegged.
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Tha Chaddening huh? I had you pegged for a gymcel. Maybe not a cel at all, but likely pegged.
Christian, married, and classical conservative.
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      12-13-2019, 01:19 PM   #8742
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Christian, married, and classical conservative.
What is classical conservative in the age of Trump?
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      12-13-2019, 01:21 PM   #8743
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What is classical conservative in the age of Trump?
Itís essentially non-existent with Trump, hence why I changed my name.
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Itís essentially non-existent with Trump, hence why I changed my name.
Thank you for the honest answer. I totally respect that. People always told me that I would become more conservative as I got older and a lot of the conservative positions of the 80s I identify with. Guess I am a Libertarian now.
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Thank you for the honest answer. I totally respect that. People always told me that I would become more conservative as I got older and a lot of the conservative positions of the 80s I identify with. Guess I am a Libertarian now.
That's what happened to me, too. #walkaway
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Do we have a Makes You Want To Vomit thread?

https://nypost.com/2019/12/13/florid...rump-2020-hat/

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I think he's still in the hospital.
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Freshman Rep. Jefferson Van Drew (D-N.J.), a vocal opponent of impeachment, plans to switch parties and join the GOP after meeting with President Trump on Friday, Democratic sources told The Hill.
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      12-15-2019, 12:33 AM   #8749
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Apparent miss. Still waiting on details and "official" projections, but.....





Now, if this turns out to be a one-step-back to take two-steps-forward scenario regarding our trade with China, I will happily give Trump all the credit in the world. Time will tell.
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Apparent miss. Still waiting on details and "official" projections, but.....





Now, if this turns out to be a one-step-back to take two-steps-forward scenario regarding our trade with China, I will happily give Trump all the credit in the world. Time will tell.
You are not going to fix this in one year. This is the beginning of a new trade agreement. Of course it will cost us initially. We are attempting to undo 50 years of imbalanced trade.
Even though this has cost me $$$ this year I will say it is a hit with the American people.
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You are not going to fix this in one year. This is the beginning of a new trade agreement. Of course it will cost us initially. We are attempting to undo 50 years of imbalanced trade.
Even though this has cost me $$$ this year I will say it is a hit with the American people.
Point being it has cost us. It might benefit us in the future.

How that is viewed as a win today makes no sense.


Tell you what, give me $10K today. At some point in the future, I might pay you back $20K. I also might pay you back $0.

Is that a "win" for you?
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I just don't understand the obsession with the trade imbalance, or rather the deficit. It's nonsensical. Historically, the lower the overall trade deficit the worse the economy because we're consuming less.
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You are not going to fix this in one year. This is the beginning of a new trade agreement. Of course it will cost us initially. We are attempting to undo 50 years of imbalanced trade.
Even though this has cost me $$$ this year I will say it is a hit with the American people.
Point being it has cost us. It might benefit us in the future.

How that is viewed as a win today makes no sense.


Tell you what, give me $10K today. At some point in the future, I might pay you back $20K. I also might pay you back $0.

Is that a "win" for you?
How is that different than any other investment?
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Apparent miss. Still waiting on details and "official" projections, but.....





Now, if this turns out to be a one-step-back to take two-steps-forward scenario regarding our trade with China, I will happily give Trump all the credit in the world. Time will tell.
Come on, this is a horrible way of looking at the deal.

Neither the $11B tarrifs or the $28B bailout will be there next year. So yes we had a net loss of $10B this year during negotiations, but what's the net over the next 10 years? I don't know the answer to that question, but it doesn't seem like Chris Murphy does either. How about he waits until he figures that out before commenting.
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Apparent miss. Still waiting on details and "official" projections, but.....





Now, if this turns out to be a one-step-back to take two-steps-forward scenario regarding our trade with China, I will happily give Trump all the credit in the world. Time will tell.
Come on, this is a horrible way of looking at the deal.

Neither the $11B tarrifs or the $28B bailout will be there next year. So yes we had a net loss of $10B this year during negotiations, but what's the net over the next 10 years? I don't know the answer to that question, but it doesn't seem like Chris Murphy does either. How about he waits until he figures that out before commenting.
Mr Murphy does have a rather short sighted view, imo.
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