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      06-14-2020, 09:01 PM   #705
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As much as I no longer provide routine maintenance to the exterior of my vehicles, there a couple elements I remain pretty adamant about when it comes performance enhancement . . . the windows and certain interior elements.

The importance of clean/clear windows is obvious. Regarding the Dakota leather that comes with the M2C. . . not the best leather, but it does the job. Rather firm and bit 'slippery' which is not ideal when pulling Gs in the twisties.

There are a lot of myths and voodoo about caring for treated leather. Not here to start another debate on the topic. I will simply say I'm a Leatherique fan and, for anyone interested, I reference Todd at Esoteric who summarizes things pretty well.

Couple additional comments. You cannot apply too much step 1 (rejuvenator/conditioner) and you cannot leave it on too long - the longer and warmer the climate the better, e.g., better results in summer than winter.

So, I headed out of town for the week and, before leaving, I 'gooped-up' the leather pretty thoroughly with Leatherique rejuvenator/conditioner. Will follow it up with step 2 (cleaner) upon return home next weekend.

Even with new cars having higher quality leather I've been quite impressed by how much dirt is removed; and how much the leather is softened; and, overall, by how much the Leatherique process improves seating and steering grip . . . I'm looking forward to seeing what it can do for the Dakota leather?

I generally apply full process (step 1 & 2) about every 6-12 months, and maintain with step 2 once or twice between full process. Exceptions being the steering wheel and driver's seat leather, which are most prone dirt/oil accumulation and wear.

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As follow-up to the stock M2C exhaust tip 'issue,' I know the M2CS has an 'altered' exhaust and not sure if the CS exhaust tips will fit the Competition? Kind of a mute point upon further investigation . . . the CS tips are different, but appear no larger than the Competition tips (too small).

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Just received an update from my dealer on my 2021 M2C. It went status 150 today and I got my VIN, will be done with production 6/29!
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Just received an update from my dealer on my 2021 M2C. It went status 150 today and I got my VIN, will be done with production 6/29!
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@///AVM you know how I feel about Dakota leather...I much prefer merino I'm terms of quality and softness.

However, one benefit of the cheaper Dakota leather is its durability. In my mind, Dakota is similar to BMW's faux leather. It keeps its structure remarkably well. And unlike Merino, it does not show crease and wear over time. It just looks ok new and it looks ok 5 years down the line. Also, I have treated Dakota leather, so unsure if the products will bring a new lease on life.
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Just received an update from my dealer on my 2021 M2C. It went status 150 today and I got my VIN, will be done with production 6/29!
Wow incredible! Is this an ED order?
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As follow-up to the stock M2C exhaust tip 'issue,' I know the M2CS has an 'altered' exhaust and not sure if the CS exhaust tips will fit the Competition? Kind of a mute point upon further investigation . . . the CS tips are different, but appear no larger than the Competition tips (too small).

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The altered exhaust system looks to me like it is the exact same muffler with a simple metal cover that is attached by a few screws. I noticed the gap up there on my car. I mostly solved the open gap by changing the tips. Now maybe I can buy the metal cover.
I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like to me.
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Wow incredible! Is this an ED order?
This is not an ED order sadly, I wish though! I saw your earlier post on this thread that yours just went status 112 with a 7/28/2020 build. Mine was 7/27/2020 and went status 112 early last week. The 27 in the date is actually the production week when your vehicle will be done with production, in my case this was the first day of week 27. So in your case week 28 should be July 6 through July 12 for the week yours will finish production. You may get it sooner than you thought!
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@///AVM you know how I feel about Dakota leather...I much prefer merino I'm terms of quality and softness.

However, one benefit of the cheaper Dakota leather is its durability. In my mind, Dakota is similar to BMW's faux leather. It keeps its structure remarkably well. And unlike Merino, it does not show crease and wear over time. It just looks ok new and it looks ok 5 years down the line. Also, I have treated Dakota leather, so unsure if the products will bring a new lease on life.
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As per usual, great feedback . . . thank you.

I am not looking to turn the Dakota into Merino, as you know. In my experience, however, the Leatherique process is very good at 'softening' the texture which lends itself to improved comfort and durability.

The cleaning process lends itself to improved 'grip.' The best example I can give is the leather steering wheel on any car. In quick order, hand oils and dirt accumulate and makes the wheel relatively 'slippery.' The slip correlates directly with the steering wheel leather transitioning from a 'matte' appearance to a more 'glossy' appearance.

If you apply the Leatherique cleaner (step 2) every couple of weeks as maintenance - quick and easy process - the steering wheel retains its optimal grip . . . same can be said of the drivers seat leather that similarly accumulates body oil and dirt quite readily.

Not to digress, but I anted-up for the upgraded Sport Tex seats in my 718 CGTS. The seats retain leather trim with Sport-Tex fabric in central (body contact) portion of the seat. ABSOLUTELY one of the best little decisions I ever made. The Sport Tex material remains cool in summer; warm in the winter; minimizes 'sweating;' and provides incredible grip.

I am not sure if BMW offers an option comparable to Sport Tex, but I would absolutely pay for the upgrade over full leather (Dakota, Merino or otherwise) in any future car with option available.

Do not have a pic of the Sport Tex seat in my GTS, but the pic below is representative.

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Wow incredible! Is this an ED order?
This is not an ED order sadly, I wish though! I saw your earlier post on this thread that yours just went status 112 with a 7/28/2020 build. Mine was 7/27/2020 and went status 112 early last week. The 27 in the date is actually the production week when your vehicle will be done with production, in my case this was the first day of week 27. So in your case week 28 should be July 6 through July 12 for the week yours will finish production. You may get it sooner than you thought!
WOAH! This is the best surprise news ever! I can't believe 7/28/2020 is not actually a date, boy that is confusing!

I am so pumped right now, thank you for correcting my false assumption. Was definitely disappointed I would have to wait till end of September / early October for delivery 😂😂

Also interesting your car went into production much earlier than your scheduled production date. I read somewhere it is almost impossible for your BMW to be built earlier than what was assigned in their system. Definitely gives me hope mine may be moved further up as well.
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WOAH! This is the best surprise news ever! I can't believe 7/28/2020 is not actually a date, boy that is confusing!

I am so pumped right now, thank you for correcting my false assumption. Was definitely disappointed I would have to wait till end of September / early October for delivery 😂😂

Also interesting your car went into production much earlier than your scheduled production date. I read somewhere it is almost impossible for your BMW to be built earlier than what was assigned in their system. Definitely gives me hope mine may be moved further up as well.
I had the same assumption early on and my dealer mentioned its organized by (month:week:year) and that the week is the week the car will be completed with production. The "production begins" 150 status assigns a VIN from my understanding and the car has not actually gone into fabrication until the next status of "exterior body assembly" i believe 151 if I'm not mistaken. Hopefully both our vehicles will arrive on the east cost in the not so distant future!
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The altered exhaust system looks to me like it is the exact same muffler with a simple metal cover that is attached by a few screws. I noticed the gap up there on my car. I mostly solved the open gap by changing the tips. Now maybe I can buy the metal cover.
I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like to me.
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Yes, the exhaust appears every bit M2C with what is described in various media articles as having some new valve control, and what sounds like an 'amped-up' ASD.

I am confused by what you mean in stating 'metal cover' on the M2CS? My assumption is that you are referring to the exhaust tips present, which are raw metal and nice . . . but no bigger than the black chrome tips on the M2C?

I do not mind the stock M2C or M2CS exhaust tips, per say, but they are simply too small . . . look really 'wimpy.' So, I am looking to beef-up the tips. I have looked at various Bimmerpost threads and aftermarket offerings that correspond to my desire for something as near identical to the AWE Black Diamond Tips as I can get. If you look at the fine print, nobody seems to offer anything that is truly designed or fits the M2C.

The one possible exception being the AC Schnitzer Sport Black offering, however, these are listed for about $1,800 . . . which I think is insane for exhaust tips. The entire AWE Track Exhaust system I got for my Macan Turbo only cost $1,600, and included the Black Diamond exhaust tips I am looking to replicate on my M2C.

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Yes, the exhaust appears every bit M2C with what is described in various media articles as having some new valve control, and what sounds like an 'amped-up' ASD.

I am confused by what you mean in stating 'metal cover' on the M2CS? My assumption is that you are referring to the exhaust tips present, which are raw metal and nice . . . but no bigger than the black chrome tips on the M2C?

I do not mind the stock M2C or M2CS exhaust tips, per say, but they are simply too small . . . look really 'wimpy.' So, I am looking to beef-up the tips. I have looked at various Bimmerpost threads and aftermarket offerings that correspond to my desire for something as near identical to the AWE Black Diamond Tips as I can get. If you look at the fine print, nobody seems to offer anything that is truly designed or fits the M2C.

The one possible exception being the AC Schnitzer Sport Black offering, however, these are listed for about $1,800 . . . which I think is insane for exhaust tips. The entire AWE Track Exhaust system I got for my Macan Turbo only cost $1,600, and included the Black Diamond exhaust tips I am looking to replicate on my M2C.

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If you zoom in on those photos, it looks like thin metal plate that's just above and behind the tips. It looks like it is attached from the top by screws. Since there isn't much first hand info on the CS yet, I could be completely wrong 😂.
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Yes, the exhaust appears every bit M2C with what is described in various media articles as having some new valve control, and what sounds like an 'amped-up' ASD.

I am confused by what you mean in stating 'metal cover' on the M2CS? My assumption is that you are referring to the exhaust tips present, which are raw metal and nice . . . but no bigger than the black chrome tips on the M2C?

I do not mind the stock M2C or M2CS exhaust tips, per say, but they are simply too small . . . look really 'wimpy.' So, I am looking to beef-up the tips. I have looked at various Bimmerpost threads and aftermarket offerings that correspond to my desire for something as near identical to the AWE Black Diamond Tips as I can get. If you look at the fine print, nobody seems to offer anything that is truly designed or fits the M2C.

The one possible exception being the AC Schnitzer Sport Black offering, however, these are listed for about $1,800 . . . which I think is insane for exhaust tips. The entire AWE Track Exhaust system I got for my Macan Turbo only cost $1,600, and included the Black Diamond exhaust tips I am looking to replicate on my M2C.

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If you zoom in on those photos, it looks like thin metal plate that's just above and behind the tips. It looks like it is attached from the top by screws. Since there isn't much first hand info on the CS yet, I could be completely wrong 😂.
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My apologies, but I do not see what you are referencing?

I THINK the CS exhaust tips are just the same as the Competition tips, except single wall metal front to back, and not finished in black chrome.

I could be wrong too. . .

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Yes, the exhaust appears every bit M2C with what is described in various media articles as having some new valve control, and what sounds like an 'amped-up' ASD.

I am confused by what you mean in stating 'metal cover' on the M2CS? My assumption is that you are referring to the exhaust tips present, which are raw metal and nice . . . but no bigger than the black chrome tips on the M2C?

I do not mind the stock M2C or M2CS exhaust tips, per say, but they are simply too small . . . look really 'wimpy.' So, I am looking to beef-up the tips. I have looked at various Bimmerpost threads and aftermarket offerings that correspond to my desire for something as near identical to the AWE Black Diamond Tips as I can get. If you look at the fine print, nobody seems to offer anything that is truly designed or fits the M2C.

The one possible exception being the AC Schnitzer Sport Black offering, however, these are listed for about $1,800 . . . which I think is insane for exhaust tips. The entire AWE Track Exhaust system I got for my Macan Turbo only cost $1,600, and included the Black Diamond exhaust tips I am looking to replicate on my M2C.

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I zoomed in on the photo and brightened it. I think I was wrong. It's probably just the muffler. I guess we'll find out soon enough since the CS should be rolling out in Europe soon.
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This is not an ED order sadly, I wish though! I saw your earlier post on this thread that yours just went status 112 with a 7/28/2020 build. Mine was 7/27/2020 and went status 112 early last week. The 27 in the date is actually the production week when your vehicle will be done with production, in my case this was the first day of week 27. So in your case week 28 should be July 6 through July 12 for the week yours will finish production. You may get it sooner than you thought!
Well Boys, Just got told my car is slated for week 32. Gonna be tough to wait out!!
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Well Boys, Just got told my car is slated for week 32. Gonna be tough to wait out!!
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Worth the wait . . . here before you know it!

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As follow-up to the stock M2C exhaust tip 'issue,' I know the M2CS has an 'altered' exhaust and not sure if the CS exhaust tips will fit the Competition? Kind of a mute point upon further investigation . . . the CS tips are different, but appear no larger than the Competition tips (too small).

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It's the exact same exhaust, just the tips are different (would fit on the M2C)
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It's the exact same exhaust, just the tips are different (would fit on the M2C)
Are they for sure tips, or did they just flare an polish the last bit of tubing?
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It's the exact same exhaust, just the tips are different (would fit on the M2C)
Are they for sure tips, or did they just flare an polish the last bit of tubing?
Every exhaust has tips - they're just different than those of the M2C.
It's the exact same exhaust.
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Wow incredible! Is this an ED order?
This is not an ED order sadly, I wish though! I saw your earlier post on this thread that yours just went status 112 with a 7/28/2020 build. Mine was 7/27/2020 and went status 112 early last week. The 27 in the date is actually the production week when your vehicle will be done with production, in my case this was the first day of week 27. So in your case week 28 should be July 6 through July 12 for the week yours will finish production. You may get it sooner than you thought!
I did not know that! I've been given production week 27 of July 2020. Does that mean my car is finishing production early July ?

I think my car and your car will be on the assembly line together, mines obviously en route to Australia so we may take delivery at different times but its cool to know you have the same build week as me.
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. . . Does that mean my car is finishing production early July ?. . .
Based on posts in the past from numerous excited and soon-to-be proud M2C owners, the rate-limiting step does not seem to be actual production once date established . . . rather, the time it takes to get from plant to port destination. Even then, seems there is inconsistency in time it takes to get from destination port to dealership. Regardless, cannot imagine it would be more than 4-8 weeks from production completion to arrival at dealership?

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