[gnx]

Originally Posted by Kleinacus

Apologize if this is a repeat but I didn't see it after a quick search.

https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car...tition-review/

"All the while the M2 Competition is telling you what it's up to, and reacting to your inputs ultra-faithfully. It's an utter gem. For comparison, within a couple of hours of driving the M2 Competition on the road I took an M4 CS, a stripped out but still roadgoing M4, down the same route. The more expensive car felt unpredictable at the back end and short of feel at the front, so I drove it more slowly. And it had ridiculous tyre noise."

Nonsense, I thought, but after opening the link I saw that the text is written by Paul Horrell.

Interesting...

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by Kleinacus

Apologize if this is a repeat but I didn't see it after a quick search.

https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car...tition-review/

"All the while the M2 Competition is telling you what it’s up to, and reacting to your inputs ultra-faithfully. It’s an utter gem. For comparison, within a couple of hours of driving the M2 Competition on the road I took an M4 CS, a stripped out but still roadgoing M4, down the same route. The more expensive car felt unpredictable at the back end and short of feel at the front, so I drove it more slowly. And it had ridiculous tyre noise."

Very high praise.

Originally Posted by gnx

Nonsense, I thought, but after opening the link I saw that the text is written by Paul Horrell.

Interesting...

From Top Gear website:

Paul Horrell:
Been around a long time. If you drive a new car, he tested its predecessor’s predecessor’s predecessor. If you work in the car industry, he knows your boss’s boss’s boss.

[csbear]

Originally Posted by Kleinacus

..."For comparison, within a couple of hours of driving the M2 Competition on the road I took an M4 CS, a stripped out but still roadgoing M4, down the same route. The more expensive car felt unpredictable at the back end and short of feel at the front, so I drove it more slowly. And it had ridiculous tyre noise"

But, but, but.. the M4 CS has fancy Merino leather..and..and Alcantara! Even the regular M4 at least has glossy carbon fiber and carbon fiber this and that..and is more expensive! Why would all these professional reviewers claim they like the M2 more?

The M2 Competition is not even a proper M car! Oh wait...

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by csbear

But, but, but.. the M4 CS has fancy Merino leather..and..and Alcantara! Even the regular M4 at least has glossy carbon fiber and carbon fiber this and that..and is more expensive! Why would all these professional reviewers claim they like the M2 more?

The M2 Competition is not even a proper M car! Oh wait...

I mean what does claiming the M2 drives better as a sports car have to do with the obviously superior fit and finish of the M4?

If you have sat in an M4 with full leather it makes the M2 interior feel like a Toyota. No getting around that.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by dmk08

I mean what does claiming the M2 drives better as a sports car have to do with the obviously superior fit and finish of the M4?

If you have sat in an M4 with full leather it makes the M2 interior feel like a Toyota. No getting around that.

Yeah exactly, 100% mate!

I just sat in an M4 CS @ my dealer, it's 60k EUROS more expensive. Nice alcantara steeringwheel, and exactly the same M seats as M2C

60K Euros difference lol. (160k M4CS, 100k M2C)

Bitter responses on carforums, some people have them as a hobby

Enjoy!

Cheers
Robin

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Yeah exactly, 100% mate!

I just sat in an M4 CS @ my dealer, it's 60k EUROS more expensive. Nice alcantara steeringwheel, and exactly the same M seats as M2C

60K Euros difference lol. (160k M4CS, 100k M2C)

Bitter responses on carforums, some people have them as a hobby

Enjoy!

Cheers
Robin

Its not the same seats tho?

M4 CS seats have cut outs and Merino leather which is far superior. But doesnt matter for performance obviously.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Its not the same seats tho?

M4 CS seats have cut outs and Merino leather which is far superior. But doesnt matter for performance obviously.

Exactly the same seat model with the cutouts off course.

This is the seat of the car I sat in today:

Cheers
Robin

[csbear]

Originally Posted by dmk08

I mean what does claiming the M2 drives better as a sports car have to do with the obviously superior fit and finish of the M4?

If you have sat in an M4 with full leather it makes the M2 interior feel like a Toyota. No getting around that.

Sorry all...Had one too many Imperial stouts when I posted that. The M3/M4 group likes to put down the M2 for not having certain "M things" and amenities.

I was just being a staunch supporter for the underdog.

[COChris]

Originally Posted by csbear

Sorry all...Had one too many Imperial stouts when I posted that. The M3/M4 group likes to put down the M2 for not having certain "M things" and amenities.

I was just being a staunch supporter for the underdog.

No need for an apology. DMK bro just posts here to tell us about the lame M2C.

[HOT M]

Originally Posted by Snoopy92

French review : https://news.sportauto.fr/news/15298...9o-6-cylindres

Merci pour l'article, mais 70k euros, vraiment? c'est bien cher...

[Snoopy92]

Originally Posted by Z M ROAD

Merci pour l'article, mais 70k euros, vraiment? c'est bien cher...

Entre 75 et 80k€ avec options hors négociation et hors malus de 10.5k€

[gnx]

Originally Posted by Snoopy92

Entre 75 et 80k€ avec options hors négociation et hors malus de 10.5k€

Ce malus, vous le payez chaque annee ou a l'achat de la voiture?

[Snoopy92]

Originally Posted by gnx

Ce malus, vous le payez chaque annee ou a l'achat de la voiture?

À l'achat ensuite malus dégressif au fil des ans après chaque revente ...

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by COChris

No need for an apology. DMK bro just posts here to tell us about the lame M2C.

Do what? I like the M2C and even had one ordered... I wouldnt be surprised if I own one in the future after someone else eats the depreciation.

[stefan]

Originally Posted by dmk08

I mean what does claiming the M2 drives better as a sports car have to do with the obviously superior fit and finish of the M4?

If you have sat in an M4 with full leather it makes the M2 interior feel like a Toyota. No getting around that.

hey now the M4 interior isnt exactly amazing either. These arent Audis.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by stefan

hey now the M4 interior isnt exactly amazing either. These arent Audis.

True, Audi makes amazingly tight interiors. I've owned several. After 10 years the interior is still quiet like a tomb, no creaks or rattles to be found.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by stefan

hey now the M4 interior isnt exactly amazing either. These arent Audis.

Nah most of them make it through warranty before breaking...

M4 isn't the best but with full leather vs an M2 its a nice step up. Which is expected for 20-30k more.

[HOT M]

Originally Posted by Snoopy92

Entre 75 et 80k€ avec options hors négociation et hors malus de 10.5k€

OH, la vache… Ben dis donc, on est bien chanceux de ce cote de l'atlantique et on ne le realize pas.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Z M ROAD

Merci pour l'article, mais 70k euros, vraiment? c'est bien cher...

Bien cher?

€102k dans les Pays Bas!

Cheers
Robin

[Snoopy92]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Bien cher?

€102k dans les Pays Bas!

Cheers
Robin

Et oui on est pas les moins bien lotis

[zenmaster]

Anyone know when the real reviews are due? Next month?

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

Anyone know when the real reviews are due? Next month?

Instrument tests and comparos? They will trickle out next couple of months.