[M2C_PLUS]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

Rally tracks huh? Very nice

How do you find the Trofeo R on the 'street' in UK weather?

Just normal roads but as you say, some are used for that purpose.

They are great and perform better in the damp/wet than Cup2's too. They actually "let go" better than Cup2's also. I love them.

[M2C_PLUS]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

Rally tracks huh? Very nice

How do you find the Trofeo R on the 'street' in UK weather?

The Trofeo R's......Not totally accurate but you get the idea, from UK back roads. All started at 31psi

[VisualEcho]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

Some of our B roads and back roads have a speed limit of 60mph and that is plenty of speed to cook brakes on the twists. Don't judge others on your own ability.

Ah, 60-0 hard enough for enough times cooks the brakes. I see.

I'm not judging, I just think that if you're braking that hard on the street, you're probably an idiot, which is true.

Secondly, my ability is just fine, my other car is an Exige Cup car...that never cooks the brakes...even on track. Hell, it's hard to get enough heat in the tires most times. No way I'd bother driving the M2 pig hard like that.

[M2C_PLUS]

Originally Posted by VisualEcho

Ah, 60-0 hard enough for enough times cooks the brakes. I see.

I'm not judging, I just think that if you're braking that hard on the street, you're probably an idiot, which is true.

Secondly, my ability is just fine, my other car is an Exige Cup car...that never cooks the brakes...even on track. Hell, it's hard to get enough heat in the tires most times. No way I'd bother driving the M2 pig hard like that.

"Braking that hard makes me an idiot" : The irony.

Echo by name or nature?

Is that like a whole cup car? :

[VisualEcho]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

"Braking that hard makes me an idiot" : The irony.

Braking that hard probably shows your true speed.

Hey man, live and let live. Like I said, just glad you don't travel my b-roads.

[samsamdar]

DAMN this thread turned into a mess lol - As OP, I would like to apologize to anyone looking for pads that had to read the last 2 pages

[KevinC]

I read through this entire PAINFUL thread and I still never saw any real conclusions on the OP's question, and now I want to find some gentler pads for the street for my M2c. EBC Reds? Is that what I'm to conclude? 100% street car, not driven hard very often, mainly BMWCCA road events every month or two. Rest of the time, DD-type duty. Looking for suggestions without side arguments about street vs track, who's right and who's wrong, etc. Cleaner wheels and not so much bite/overly sensitive brake pedal are what I'm after. And gentler rotor wear.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by KevinC

I read through this entire PAINFUL thread and I still never saw any real conclusions on the OP's question, and now I want to find some gentler pads for the street for my M2c. EBC Reds? Is that what I'm to conclude? 100% street car, not driven hard very often, mainly BMWCCA road events every month or two. Rest of the time, DD-type duty. Looking for suggestions without side arguments about street vs track, who's right and who's wrong, etc. Cleaner wheels and not so much bite/overly sensitive brake pedal are what I'm after. And gentler rotor wear.

Time has passed since this thread began, and I believe there is a clear winner for a street pad for the big 2NH set, and it's the CarboTech 1521.

From this pad you can expect similar to stock performance, but they will be quieter, dust less, and preserve the rotors much longer.

They require no bed-in at all, simply clean your rotors really well, install the pads and drive on them for 2-300 miles before using them hard.

They will work perfectly as b-road pads as well, so no worries there.

You don't have to take my word for it, just do a search for Bimmerpost Carbotech 1521.

[HP Autosport]

Porterfield R4-S has been our best selling street pad. Not dust-free but much less dust than OEM. Made in the USA as well!

[samsamdar]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

Porterfield R4-S has been our best selling street pad. Not dust-free but much less dust than OEM. Made in the USA as well!

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

Porterfield R4-S has been our best selling street pad. Not dust-free but much less dust than OEM. Made in the USA as well!

I've personally tried these on the 2NH brakes and they were awful. Great feel but the brake dust wasn't any better and the dust ended up staining my wheels.

[pinkertonpunk]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

Time has passed since this thread began, and I believe there is a clear winner for a street pad for the big 2NH set, and it's the CarboTech 1521.

From this pad you can expect similar to stock performance, but they will be quieter, dust less, and preserve the rotors much longer.

They require no bed-in at all, simply clean your rotors really well, install the pads and drive on them for 2-300 miles before using them hard.

They will work perfectly as b-road pads as well, so no worries there.

You don't have to take my word for it, just do a search for Bimmerpost Carbotech 1521.

Sounds like a winner! How is the initial bite? I find the stock pads to be way too grabby for my liking.

[FaRKle!]

Originally Posted by pinkertonpunk

Sounds like a winner! How is the initial bite? I find the stock pads to be way too grabby for my liking.

Initial bite on the Carbotech 1521 is smoother than the stock pads.

[medphysdave]

I found the bite from the stock pads is not there after the brake coding.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

I found the bite from the stock pads is not there after the brake coding.

Which coding is this?

[medphysdave]

I had @daap1193 do mine.

[samsamdar]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

I had @daap1193 do mine.

Yes but what coding are you talking about?

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

I had @daap1193 do mine.

But what's it for? You have a CS, so you have the latest software. There is a special coding to make the 2NH have less bite, or did you just code it to the 2NK package?

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by samsamdar

I've personally tried these on the 2NH brakes and they were awful. Great feel but the brake dust wasn't any better and the dust ended up staining my wheels.

These aren't supposed to be dustless pads.

The dust staining the wheels is news to us. Did you leave the dust on too long prior to removing them?

[samsamdar]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

These aren't supposed to be dustless pads. The dust staining the wheels is definitely news to us.

Yeah idk what to say - I ran these pads for like a month and they stained my new Brixton wheels so badly that I went back to oem immediately

[ThreeStripes]

For those not up to speed on the brake coding Daap is providing, it’s primarily aimed at providing better pedal feel on track.

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1885341

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1781115

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

But what's it for? You have a CS, so you have the latest software. There is a special coding to make the 2NH have less bite, or did you just code it to the 2NK package?

Best I can convey is that it adjusts the brake preload caused by rapid movements of the accelerator and brake pedal. This can cause a very aggressive braking scenario with light pedal pressure on the street and track. It's really annoying on the street because it results in stopping far short of the car in front of you when applying what would normally be appropriate pressure. It's hard to describe, but if you feel like your brakes are sometimes really touchy for no reason then this could be why.

I didn't mind the stock coding on track with stock pads. I think this is because the stock pads required all the pressure I could give them to stop the car. I had the brakes tuned prior to using the xp12s. I also didn't get into ABS with the xp12s, but I did with the stock pads. I imagine this would have been amplified with the xp12s on track.

It solved my biggest complaint with the brakes, so it was money well spent. 100% satisfied.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Best I can convey is that it adjusts the brake preload caused by rapid movements of the accelerator and brake pedal. This can cause a very aggressive braking scenario with light pedal pressure on the street and track. It's really annoying on the street because it results in stopping far short of the car in front of you when applying what would normally be appropriate pressure. It's hard to describe, but if you feel like your brakes are sometimes really touchy for no reason then this could be why.

Interesting. Sounds like the standard progressive pad feel gone horribly wrong. I don't like progressive pads for this very reason.

Looks like there is a thread on it: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1885341