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      09-23-2020, 04:11 AM   #1
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Ideal spacers for OG M2 with 763m and KW V3

Looking to mount M Performance wheels 763m on the original size tires 245/35/19 265/35/19. What would be the ideal spacers setup giving that the car is slightly lowered with KW V3 ?

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12mm front and 10mm rear is the most common recommendation with OEM wheels and tyre size.

If you get any rubbing with these, it will be the tyre tread on the arch liner Which is a side effect of the lowering, not the spacers.

If by slightly lowered you mean 15-20mm, you won’t have any problems at all.
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12mm front and 10mm rear is the most common recommendation with OEM wheels and tyre size.

If you get any rubbing with these, it will be the tyre tread on the arch liner Which is a side effect of the lowering, not the spacers.

If by slightly lowered you mean 15-20mm, you won’t have any problems at all.
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yes it is 20mm lowered at the moment ,

Tnx for the info. much appreciated.
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      09-23-2020, 01:37 PM   #4
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looks lower than mine, no issues?

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looks lower than mine, no issues?
Some minor rubbing over big dips. I'm on a KW HAS kit and while it's very comfortable, it's also a bit bouncy. Probably wouldn't have any issues at a slightly higher ride height or with proper coilovers on stiffer settings.
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The ideal spacer literally depends on the drop.

OG, no rub, no poke, standard sized tires:
Stock height: 8/6
Dropped to standard 595/600: 12/10
Slammed: 15/12

M2C, no rub, no poke, standard sized tires:
Stock height: 6/6
Dropped to standard 595/600: 10/10
Slammed: 12/12
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I'm on a KW HAS kit and while it's very comfortable, it's also a bit bouncy.
Just wait until you get MPS/KW V3, you'll be all the fanboi .
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The ideal spacer literally depends on the drop.

OG, no rub, no poke, standard sized tires:
Stock height: 8/6
Dropped to standard 595/600: 12/10
Slammed: 15/12

M2C, no rub, no poke, standard sized tires:
Stock height: 6/6
Dropped to standard 595/600: 10/10
Slammed: 12/12
Any recommendations for OGM2 with standard wheel/tire, MPS w/ 600mm ride height and -2.6 camber in the front? Looking to fill the top of the wheel arch a bit for driving on the street. Thanks!
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      09-26-2020, 08:49 AM   #10
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Any recommendations for OGM2 with standard wheel/tire, MPS w/ 600mm ride height and -2.6 camber in the front? Looking to fill the top of the wheel arch a bit for driving on the street. Thanks!
You're only looking at -1° more than standard, and depending on the tire, I'd say you're only looking at 5mm at the most. You might get away with a 20mm front spacer, but certainly a 15.
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Any recommendations for OGM2 with standard wheel/tire, MPS w/ 600mm ride height and -2.6 camber in the front? Looking to fill the top of the wheel arch a bit for driving on the street. Thanks!
Speaking as someone who has an OG with OEM tire sizes, is working with OEM camber adjustments, and has tried multiple spacer combinations: visually I think the best way to pair it would be to go with a 15F/12R (if you want to play it safe). If you want it to look really aggressive go with an 18F/15R (but be aware that it could cause some rubbing depending on your ride height). I tried 12/10 because it was recommended by everyone and their mother on here and it was disappointing and didn't fill the arches the way I was expecting. I'm at 15F/15R now and I feel like the front could use a couple more mm but since I'm already getting some rubs on occasion and am unwilling to raise my ride height, I think I'm staying put for now. If I were you I'd try both (15F/12R and 18F/15R) and return/sell the set (12/18) you decide not to keep.
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Speaking as someone who has an OG with OEM tire sizes, is working with OEM camber adjustments, and has tried multiple spacer combinations: visually I think the best way to pair it would be to go with a 15F/12R (if you want to play it safe). If you want it to look really aggressive go with an 18F/15R (but be aware that it could cause some rubbing depending on your ride height). I tried 12/10 because it was recommended by everyone and their mother on here and it was disappointing and didn't fill the arches the way I was expecting. I'm at 15F/15R now and I feel like the front could use a couple more mm but since I'm already getting some rubs on occasion and am unwilling to raise my ride height, I think I'm staying put for now. If I were you I'd try both (15F/12R and 18F/15R) and return/sell the set (12/18) you decide not to keep.
You've got a little wheel poke though, right? Your tire tucks, but your wheel is slightly positive, no?
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You've got a little wheel poke though, right? Your tire tucks, but your wheel is slightly positive, no?
The wheels had a little poke with the Contis my car came with, but the sidewalls on the MPS4S I switched to are definitely much thicker and beefier which makes everything look more flush. It doesn't feel like I'd hit a pothole and bend a rim anymore, and If I were to curb a wheel the tire looks like it would make contact before the rim.

This pic does a better job illustrating that I think:

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The wheels had a little poke with the Contis my car came with, but the sidewalls on the MPS4S I switched to are definitely much thicker and beefier which makes everything look more flush.
Interesting. I'm showing them to be identical in spec.
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Interesting. I'm showing them to be identical in spec.
Yeah they're the same sizes but they definitely don't appear similar when it comes to the side profile. I'm sure sidewall stiffness and PSI plays a part in that.
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Yeah they're the same sizes but they definitely don't appear similar when it comes to the side profile. I'm sure sidewall stiffness and PSI plays a part in that.
I love the way your PS4S' sit on the car, they indeed look wider. Interesting.
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I tried 12/10 because it was recommended by everyone and their mother on here and it was disappointing and didn't fill the arches the way I was expecting. I'm at 15F/15R now and I feel like the front could use a couple more mm but since I'm already getting some rubs on occasion and am unwilling to raise my ride height, I think I'm staying put for now.
does that mean you have a 12/10 setup for sale, or long gone already? ;-)
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does that mean you have a 12/10 setup for sale, or long gone already? ;-)
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Here's 12.5/10 on KW V3. Previously had 10/7.5 and it just wasn't enough.
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How much camber are you guys running front and rear?
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How much camber are you guys running front and rear?
I run 1.85 front, 1.60 rear for the street, bump the front up to 2.85 for track.

The street setup with this camber needed 15mm front and 7.5mm rear spacer to be nice and flush. The 12/10 spacers are good for stock camber (1.5 front, 1.8 rear)
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How much camber are you guys running front and rear?
Don't remember unfortunately, sorry
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