[SFM2C6MT]

Some pics with the Dinan HAS suspension and 10mm future classic front and back. I do think 12mm in front would have made it look perfect but I didn't want to stagger spacers.

Ride height is about 603 mm front, 603 mm rear at the moment. This is about as low as the front goes, I'll be eventually raising the rear 5 mm or so to get that slight rake recommended by Dinan.

I'll be adding camber plates in the near future so I'll adjust the heights at that time so it all gets dialed in simultaneously.

No rubbing at all currently. The rear had slight rub up my driveway when it was .25" lower before final re-adjustment.

[KHAP13]

Originally Posted by SFM2C6MT

I'll be adding camber plates in the near future so I'll adjust the heights at that time so it all gets dialed in simultaneously.

I figured I would show you some pictures as I have a similar set up, although it was harder than I thought to get a good angle on the pictures.

M Performance Suspension with Front Ride Height 601mm
Camber Plates with -2.6 Deg Camber
763M Wheels with stock tire sizes.
No Spacers

If I'm honest, the way the top of the wheel is tucked in isn't that visually pleasing to me -- I would consider adding spacers in for use on the street. But I am not sure what size would be appropriate.

Curious if anyone is running stock wheel/tire specs with similar camber/ride height with spacers and what the looks like.

[clemsonkev]

About to put H&R springs on my OG. And then alignment. If I decide to get spacers later will I need another alignment?

[tropicatango]

Originally Posted by clemsonkev

About to put H&R springs on my OG. And then alignment. If I decide to get spacers later will I need another alignment?

No it won't change anything to alignment

[BirdsEye]

Originally Posted by KHAP13

I figured I would show you some pictures as I have a similar set up, although it was harder than I thought to get a good angle on the pictures.

M Performance Suspension with Front Ride Height 601mm
Camber Plates with -2.6 Deg Camber
763M Wheels with stock tire sizes.
No Spacers

If I'm honest, the way the top of the wheel is tucked in isn't that visually pleasing to me -- I would consider adding spacers in for use on the street. But I am not sure what size would be appropriate.

Curious if anyone is running stock wheel/tire specs with similar camber/ride height with spacers and what the looks like.

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Did you ever get around to adding any spacers? I'm in the same boat although slightly lower. I think 10mm would be fine but could also squeeze in a 12mm spacer as the front is tucked as you say.

[HS_M2C]

Im currently lowered on eibach springs and just switched to the 255/275 PS4S set up. Was originally running BMS 10mm spacers front/rear with stock tire size. Tried them on the current setup and they now rub in the front. Should I switch to 5mm or even 3mm just to be safe? Anyone have any experience with this?

Also, I heard 5mm spacers are not hubcentric? (Was looking at the Macht Schnell ones btw). Is there enough hub left after the spacer for it to still be hubcentric? Thanks in advance!

[FreeDarko]

Originally Posted by HS_M2C

Im currently lowered on eibach springs and just switched to the 255/275 PS4S set up. Was originally running BMS 10mm spacers front/rear with stock tire size. Tried them on the current setup and they now rub in the front. Should I switch to 5mm or even 3mm just to be safe? Anyone have any experience with this?

Also, I heard 5mm spacers are not hubcentric? (Was looking at the Macht Schnell ones btw). Is there enough hub left after the spacer for it to still be hubcentric? Thanks in advance!

I believe Turner has 5mm spacers that are Hubcentric with lip. I wouldn't run any other spacer for multiple reasons once you see the merits of having that lip, light weight etc.

PS4S tires tend to be taller than PSS. When I had my M2c, I was lowered on Eibachs with 7.5mm all around on oem PSS tires. They rubbed for few days

[VisualEcho]

Originally Posted by HS_M2C

Im currently lowered on eibach springs and just switched to the 255/275 PS4S set up. Was originally running BMS 10mm spacers front/rear with stock tire size. Tried them on the current setup and they now rub in the front.

Where do they rub? Is it on the top of the fender liner, or the inside lip of the fender?

Vs the stock 245/35 MPSS, the 255/35 PS4S is as-near-as-makes-no-difference, so definitely check to see where you are rubbing before you make any changes.

[HS_M2C]

Originally Posted by VisualEcho

Where do they rub? Is it on the top of the fender liner, or the inside lip of the fender?

Vs the stock 245/35 MPSS, the 255/35 PS4S is as-near-as-makes-no-difference, so definitely check to see where you are rubbing before you make any changes.

They rub in the front liner when I turn almost about 60% left. Not necessarily the inside lip. Cant turn the wheel all the way without it rubbing the liner in the front. Could be worse and rub the inside lip if I go over bumps but I really want to avoid any rubbing at all if possible.

[VisualEcho]

Originally Posted by HS_M2C

They rub in the front liner when I turn almost about 60% left. Not necessarily the inside lip. Cant turn the wheel all the way without it rubbing the liner in the front. Could be worse and rub the inside lip if I go over bumps but I really want to avoid any rubbing at all if possible.

You're too low for how tall the tire is. If it were me I'd just keep a close eye on it, as I don't think there will be any real damage. However, I have seen someone recently warning people about rubbing through the liner can cause the tire to be cut, but I think it was for the rear.

If I were you I'd just keep an eye on it.

[rjpiston]

I'm going to be putting on my summer rims/tires and lowering with eibach pro kit springs and was also thinking of 10mm spacers but I'm not sure how to measure it with the offset built into the rims.

Front: 19x9.5" ET28 with 265/30-19 tires
Rear: 19x10.5" ET45 with 295/30-19 tires

Also, will I need longer studs with this combo? and should I get camber plates, as well?

I'll be getting a full alignment after the install and for camber I've been reading -3 in the front and -1.9 in the rear, not sure if that will work with my combo or not.

[skream]

I think I nailed the perfect fitment after adjusting ride height a couple times... Bilstein B16 PSS10's mated to Millway camber plates set to -2 degrees both front and rear and 12/10mm spacers front/rear.

[M2_MEDUSA]

I have M2 comp with 763M wheels stock suspension. Stock PSS tires Could I run 10mm front and 7.5mm rear? Also can you put hubcentric on the rear or does that only apply to fronts .

[VisualEcho]

Just a quick update for those that are considering running 15/12 instead of 12/10. AndrewC1989 got me thinking about this, and he was right, no rubbing at all with stock tires, dropped on MPerformance coils to BMW's 595/600 specs.

But..

I'll say that if you're OCD, and depending on the tire you run, the tire bead itself may be a few mm outside the fender/quarter lip. It's not something you'd notice if you're not OCD, and like I said, depending on the tire you choose (some have larger beads than others, which they call rim protectors), you will be a few mm out.

For those that want to set it and forget it, choose 12/10, but if you want those few extra mm to get it to fit just right, the 15/12 works.

Thanks again Andrew!

[TEST DRYVER]

I've read through all of these pages on this thread and although there are a small few that run into problems with even 7.5mm front and 5mm rear, the majority do not. It's become apparent that the OG M2 is able to eat up more spacer with less issues. This thread has helped me decide what I need for my fitment preference. I have an M2C on M763 wheels, and MSS HAS springs coming next week (OEM cup 2 figment for tires). I'd like to have spacers ready to install fairly quickly after the car is dropped off. Since I want a flush fitment and I want ZERO chance of rubbing, I'm buying a set of hubcentric spacers: 10mm front and 7.5mm for the rear. I will look at Turner, but I believe (last I saw), they were out of stock on one of the mentioned sizes. Does anyone have another well made option to Turner?

[DriverDaily]

Originally Posted by TEST DRYVER

I've read through all of these pages on this thread and although there are a small few that run into problems with even 7.5mm front and 5mm rear, the majority do not. It's become apparent that the OG M2 is able to eat up more spacer with less issues. This thread has helped me decide what I need for my fitment preference. I have an M2C on M763 wheels, and MSS HAS springs coming next week (OEM cup 2 figment for tires). I'd like to have spacers ready to install fairly quickly after the car is dropped off. Since I want a flush fitment and I want ZERO chance of rubbing, I'm buying a set of hubcentric spacers: 10mm front and 7.5mm for the rear. I will look at Turner, but I believe (last I saw), they were out of stock on one of the mentioned sizes. Does anyone have another well made option to Turner?

I went Turner because they were the only ones I could find with the hub centric rings on small sizes like 7.5mm. I think they do the spacers in batches when they get enough orders. I would really recommend hub-centric so you might want to put your order in and wait.

[VisualEcho]

Originally Posted by TEST DRYVER

I've read through all of these pages on this thread and although there are a small few that run into problems with even 7.5mm front and 5mm rear, the majority do not. It's become apparent that the OG M2 is able to eat up more spacer with less issues. This thread has helped me decide what I need for my fitment preference. I have an M2C on M763 wheels, and MSS HAS springs coming next week (OEM cup 2 figment for tires). I'd like to have spacers ready to install fairly quickly after the car is dropped off. Since I want a flush fitment and I want ZERO chance of rubbing, I'm buying a set of hubcentric spacers: 10mm front and 7.5mm for the rear. I will look at Turner, but I believe (last I saw), they were out of stock on one of the mentioned sizes. Does anyone have another well made option to Turner?

The key to not rubbing with stock sized wheels/tires is in the drop, and the specific tires you choose. Take care in choosing a tire because some run just a bit wider than others. Look closely at the specs compared to the OEM MPSS before you buy. Once that part is done, drop the car to your liking, and then do the spacers last. Having an M2C, and possibly dropping the car different than BMW spec (595/600) you may have to buy a few different spacers to get the fitment correct.

I'd say that if you're dropping the car to BMW spec, and buying the correct tires you'll have no rubbing at all with 7.5/5, but every car, drop, and tire is a bit different, so you'll need to do some work on this one.

And if you're that worried about it, don't get the spacers at all. Zero risk there.

I have the Burger Tuning spacers and have been very happy with them.

[TEST DRYVER]

Originally Posted by VisualEcho

The key to not rubbing with stock sized wheels/tires is in the drop, and the specific tires you choose. Take care in choosing a tire because some run just a bit wider than others. Look closely at the specs compared to the OEM MPSS before you buy. Once that part is done, drop the car to your liking, and then do the spacers last. Having an M2C, and possibly dropping the car different than BMW spec (595/600) you may have to buy a few different spacers to get the fitment correct.

I'd say that if you're dropping the car to BMW spec, and buying the correct tires you'll have no rubbing at all with 7.5/5, but every car, drop, and tire is a bit different, so you'll need to do some work on this one.

And if you're that worried about it, don't get the spacers at all. Zero risk there.

I have the Burger Tuning spacers and have been very happy with them.

Thank you! That's very helpful. I'll wait to take delivery and have it measured before ordering. I don't want rubbing (at all), I want flush fitment, but I don't like poke. Your idea works best to alleviate any headaches.

[robstahl]

Just installed some Macht Schnell 10mm spacers and am pretty pleased. I think since there isnt so much drop shadow on the tires due to them poking out, the car looks a little lower and the tires fill the wheel arches out better. Not sure if or when I will lower the car so this is good for now. Not a big fan of a big drop anyways. Enjoy pics.

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by robstahl

Just installed some Macht Schnell 10mm spacers and am pretty pleased. I think since there isnt so much drop shadow on the tires due to them poking out, the car looks a little lower and the tires fill the wheel arches out better. Not sure if or when I will lower the car so this is good for now. Not a big fan of a big drop anyways. Enjoy pics.

Looks great!

[VisualEcho]

OK, so just a heads up. Yesterday, coming home the same way I have been for years, the right front rubbed a bit with the 15mm spacer. It was just a TINY bit, but it rubbed. Wheels are OEM 763M's, tires are stock size.

I'm sure this is due to the new PS4S tires I recently had installed, even though they show .2" less TW than the old Conti's, and are the same OD. So it's either the shape of the sidewall that caused the rub, or tirerack has their specs a bit wrong because I never rubbed before (everything else is the same).

Ride height is 595 just like BMW recommends.

Switched back to 12/10, and will hopefully not have any more issues.

[JMM]

In my opinion, a bit of poke on a "normal" car is fine, but not on a car with extended fenders.
Wheels that stick out with expanded fenders make the car excessively wide and disproportionate to the view of the car.

To each his own, but I prefer 5 to max. 6mm at the front and 3 to max. 4mm at the rear. Just barely flush, i know but it does add to the right overall look of this car with his expanded fenders....and also no rubbing guaranteed when lowering and with one size wider tyres... just my two cents.