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      07-07-2021, 01:29 PM   #1
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Why do they always bring a Cayman GTS and not a Cayman/Cayman S to these comparos. In what universe are they finding a M2C and a Cayman GTS even remotely in the same area code price wise.
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Why do they always bring a Cayman GTS and not a Cayman/Cayman S to these comparos. In what universe are they finding a M2C and a Cayman GTS even remotely in the same area code price wise.
These guys are journalists and not enthusiasts.
Most of them don't know their stuff.
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Why do they always bring a Cayman GTS and not a Cayman/Cayman S to these comparos. In what universe are they finding a M2C and a Cayman GTS even remotely in the same area code price wise.
These guys are journalists and not enthusiasts.
Most of them don't know their stuff.
You think Tiff Needel is a journalist & not an enthusiast .
Ever hear of Formula 1 ? He used to race F1.
What about a tv show called top gear ? What about a tv show called 5th gear ?
No idea who the other 2 amatuers are but Tiff has forgotten more about cars than you will ever know.
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Why do they always bring a Cayman GTS and not a Cayman/Cayman S to these comparos. In what universe are they finding a M2C and a Cayman GTS even remotely in the same area code price wise.
Ridiculous argument. Price is not the end all of what makes a comparison. Tons of people shop different cars to compare in different classes all the time.

Does a ZL1 1LE not deserve to be compared to an M4 GTS or 911 GT3 because it’s cheaper… please.
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Why do they always bring a Cayman GTS and not a Cayman/Cayman S to these comparos. In what universe are they finding a M2C and a Cayman GTS even remotely in the same area code price wise.
Ridiculous argument. Price is not the end all of what makes a comparison. Tons of people shop different cars to compare in different classes all the time.

Does a ZL1 1LE not deserve to be compared to an M4 GTS or 911 GT3 because it's cheaper… please.
The title of the video is literally "The best sports coupe for £50,000?" So yes, my ridiculous argument stands lol.
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Why do they always bring a Cayman GTS and not a Cayman/Cayman S to these comparos. In what universe are they finding a M2C and a Cayman GTS even remotely in the same area code price wise.
These guys are journalists and not enthusiasts.
Most of them don't know their stuff.
You think Tiff Needel is a journalist & not an enthusiast .
Ever hear of Formula 1 ? He used to race F1.
What about a tv show called top gear ? What about a tv show called 5th gear ?
No idea who the other 2 amatuers are but Tiff has forgotten more about cars than you will ever know.
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Why do they always bring a Cayman GTS and not a Cayman/Cayman S to these comparos. In what universe are they finding a M2C and a Cayman GTS even remotely in the same area code price wise.
I agree, probably the 2.0t would be a good comparison especially against the Alpine. I think the M2 would win but having owned a 2.0t Boxster, I would own one again if I could. Just a lot of fun and somewhat more affordable so you’re not as worried about honing around. Plus you’re using more of its available power.
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The title of the video is literally "The best sports coupe for £50,000?" So yes, my ridiculous argument stands lol.
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Why do they always bring a Cayman GTS and not a Cayman/Cayman S to these comparos. In what universe are they finding a M2C and a Cayman GTS even remotely in the same area code price wise.
These guys are journalists and not enthusiasts.
Most of them don't know their stuff.
You think Tiff Needel is a journalist & not an enthusiast .
Ever hear of Formula 1 ? He used to race F1.
What about a tv show called top gear ? What about a tv show called 5th gear ?
No idea who the other 2 amatuers are but Tiff has forgotten more about cars than you will ever know.
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How many you raced in ?
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The title of the video is literally "The best sports coupe for £50,000?" So yes, my ridiculous argument stands lol.
I see that now. I will now bow out of the interwebz for the day. I stand by my statement but it does not apply with that video headline
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Why do they always bring a Cayman GTS and not a Cayman/Cayman S to these comparos. In what universe are they finding a M2C and a Cayman GTS even remotely in the same area code price wise.
It all depends on where the buyer is financially. When I was hunting for a car, the M2c was right at the very limit of what I was willing to spend. In fact, it was just a tiny bit of a stretch. I looked at caymans, but even the Cayman T was out of my price range, to say nothing of the S and GTS.

But at the same time, I was considering just saving money and going with a Miata, a Mustang GT, or a genesis g70. So I was comparing cars with hugely different price points, but at the same time, even like 5k over budget wasn’t going to cut it for me. So I have sympathy for tests like this, they just aren’t speaking to me considering how much money I have to spend.

But also the title of the video is dumb and clickbaity.
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