Question regarding carbon fiber options

M2forme · 03-15-2021, 04:10 PM

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Hey everybody! I apologize if this has been discussed and articulated already but I am curious as to the availability and feasibility of ordering an M2 Competition with carbon components. A salesman I spoke to told me that carbon pieces could be ordered individually and while speaking to another, they conveyed that not only are they NOT available, they are are not available as what is called a "port installation." I have seen 2021 window stickers with carbon fiber diffusers etc. and I just want to know if I am being lied to or what the deal is? Any insight is greatly appreciated!

pz619 · 03-15-2021, 04:17 PM

It’s both. You can order individually through the parts department after you’ve taken delivery. Also, you can apply carbon bits to your car if you order from the factory. The parts aren’t added at the factory but are installed once the car arrives at the port. The downside, is that the port keeps your stock parts if that matters to you.

M2forme · 03-15-2021, 04:48 PM

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It's both. You can order individually through the parts department after you've taken delivery. Also, you can apply carbon bits to your car if you order from the factory. The parts aren't added at the factory but are installed once the car arrives at the port. The downside, is that the port keeps your stock parts if that matters to you.

I don't think it matters to me as much as the salesperson telling me that carbon bits could not be ordered individually and installed at port. Thanks for the information!

Brandt51 · 03-15-2021, 05:10 PM

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I don't think it matters to me as much as the salesperson telling me that carbon bits could not be ordered individually and installed at port. Thanks for the information!

Not all dealers are the same. The Bimmer dealers in Vegas seem to be on point. But while shopping for cars these past couple years, it seems that sales people (excluding my experience at my local Bimmer dealer) don't know shit about their products. Which is surprising because of how expensive things are becoming. I don't like getting contradicting informations when dropping a lot of coin.

With the Bimmer carbon, if you order a car with additional port installed parts, the install cost is free right? And it's shown on the sticker?

Good luck.

BigKutta · 03-15-2021, 05:24 PM

Well, it could be a couple of things. The dealer could be lazy and doesn't want to spec up carbon bits because either they dont want to, or they feel like they are harder to sell if the buyer backs out. A year ago when I was shopping for my M2, I saw that the (very) few M2Cs that had Carbon bits, had been sitting around for months unsold. The problem is that the carbon drive the price of the M2 to near 70k, not a price many are willing to pay.

DanG · 03-15-2021, 05:29 PM

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Not all dealers are the same. The Bimmer dealers in Vegas seem to be on point. But while shopping for cars these past couple years, it seems that sales people (excluding my experience at my local Bimmer dealer) don't know shit about their products. Which is surprising because of how expensive things are becoming. I don't like getting contradicting informations when dropping a lot of coin.

With the Bimmer carbon, if you order a car with additional port installed parts, the install cost is free right? And it's shown on the sticker?

Good luck.

The install cost is not free. Port installed parts are listed on the sticker at above MSRP for the part. The price on the sticker includes the labor.

The good thing about port installed parts is that they can be financed through BMW Financial because they become part of the list price of the car. Parts bought over the counter cannot be financed.

maxcbrdriver · 03-15-2021, 05:50 PM

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The install cost is not free. Port installed parts are listed on the sticker at above MSRP for the part. The price on the sticker includes the labor.

The good thing about port installed parts is that they can be financed through BMW Financial because they become part of the list price of the car. Parts bought over the counter cannot be financed.

Exactly. My CA said the port labor cost is lower than a dealership, but you're definitely paying for it. And as was mentioned above, you lose the original. The ability to roll the cost into the loan is really the only reason I'd ever consider port install. The premium you pay for that convenience is however high.

M2forme · 03-15-2021, 05:53 PM

Good comments here and I concur with much of what has been said. I am confident that I can install the stuff but it's the time and energy to do so when I can simply have it done with a window sticker to prove it. Anything happens, you can prove via window sticker that your car had something from the factory. I think it's better than having a parts' counter receipt. Neither here nor there, I suppose but if it is an option, I would hope that my salesperson is aware and conveying that information and just not declining the option for some other reason(s).

Brandt51 · 03-15-2021, 05:57 PM

I didn't really care about keeping the original diffuser or exhaust, but when I bought 763s, I def wanted to keep the 788s.

Gotta be careful ordering BMW performance parts, that stuff adds up fast!

Thanks for the info.

M2forme · 03-16-2021, 01:04 PM

Just to be clear on my understanding - The parts are factory ordered but installed at the port in Germany not the US?

pz619 · 03-16-2021, 01:09 PM

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Just to be clear on my understanding - The parts are factory ordered but installed at the port in Germany not the US?

At the port in the US. Technically it's at the Vehicle Processing Center (VPC) that's near the US port of entry.

M2forme · 03-16-2021, 01:31 PM

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Just to be clear on my understanding - The parts are factory ordered but installed at the port in Germany not the US?

At the port in the US. Technically it's at the Vehicle Processing Center (VPC) that's near the US port of entry.

Thank you for that! I assume that this is a full time BMW operation and also where they print the window sticker?

pz619 · 03-16-2021, 01:41 PM

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Thank you for that! I assume that this is a full time BMW operation and also where they print the window sticker?

Correct, here is an interesting read. Unfortunately lots of the pictures have been lost to time.

https://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207104

https://bimmerlife.com/2018/08/11/a-...bution-center/

maxcbrdriver · 03-16-2021, 04:23 PM

Interesting reads, ty. I never realized that extensive repainting was an option on new cars. I hope mine doesn't end up needing anything like that.

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pz619 Brigadier General 3279 Rep 3,256 Posts Drives: F87 M2C 6MT, Tesla 3 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	It’s both. You can order individually through the parts department after you’ve taken delivery. Also, you can apply carbon bits to your car if you order from the factory. The parts aren’t added at the factory but are installed once the car arrives at the port. The downside, is that the port keeps your stock parts if that matters to you.
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M2forme Private 84 Rep 74 Posts Drives: '21 M2 Competition Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Good comments here and I concur with much of what has been said. I am confident that I can install the stuff but it's the time and energy to do so when I can simply have it done with a window sticker to prove it. Anything happens, you can prove via window sticker that your car had something from the factory. I think it's better than having a parts' counter receipt. Neither here nor there, I suppose but if it is an option, I would hope that my salesperson is aware and conveying that information and just not declining the option for some other reason(s).
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maxcbrdriver Second Lieutenant 168 Rep 287 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW 535xiT; 2021 BMW M2C Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	Interesting reads, ty. I never realized that extensive repainting was an option on new cars. I hope mine doesn't end up needing anything like that.
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