[stein_325i]

Easily one of the best BMW on sale today, and the best driver's car BMW has offered after E-Generation vehicles. Sadly once this generation is out of production I worry for the future of BMW and M. The M2 whether in OG, Comp, or CS trim has been BMW's saving grace in the last few years, the prime example of "The Ultimate Driving Machine" taking the M3's title/position in the lineup. Whether the next generation of M2 and M cars can carry on that position is awaited to be seen.

[beemerman1984]

Some great reviews of the car. One thing I have been surprised about is how many are still sitting on showroom floors. There are several locally and one is even below MSRP. I wonder if the cost was just a bit too high for the package, if BMW had shaved a bit off the cost it might have truly been the GOAT enthusiasts wanted it to be. As pricing gets more aggressive to move sitting units I may very well jump in.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by beemerman1984

Some great reviews of the car. One thing I have been surprised about is how many are still sitting on showroom floors. There are several locally and one is even below MSRP. I wonder if the cost was just a bit too high for the package, if BMW had shaved a bit off the cost it might have truly been the GOAT enthusiasts wanted it to be. As pricing gets more aggressive to move sitting units I may very well jump in.

Agree, the price is a hard pill to swallow in my opinion. There is one at my local dealer for $94k that has been sitting. I would rather stretch a bit further for a GTS4.0/GT4 or simply go for an M2C at $61k (before discounts) and use the rest elsewhere.

[Poochie]

85k base MSRP is a lot of money for a vehicle, IMHO but then I realized that a fully-equipped M4 goes for around 82k; so one, its relatively not out of the price range for the market it shoots for and two, I'm in the wrong business..

Congrats to those that could swing this awesome package..

[ScullyD]

After driving mine on the road, not sure i would take a Cayman GT4 over the M2 CS at the same price. Cayman GT4 has incredibly tall gearing out to 82 mph in 2nd gear, and that makes the car unusable on B roads in my opinion. Would need a Sharkwerks transmission swap to be usable properly on the road.

GT4 seems like a great car to own on paper, but i couldn't imagine giving up the M2 CS to get a GT4, i think i'd have alot of buyer's remorse as soon as i realized i just gave up a brilliant road car that feels special at low speeds for a track car that is barely usable on the street. At that point i'm just saying "i would have the GT4" so i can look cooler since I'm not a track day guy.

[beemerman1984]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Agree, the price is a hard pill to swallow in my opinion. There is one at my local dealer for $94k that has been sitting. I would rather stretch a bit further for a GTS4.0/GT4 or simply go for an M2C at $61k (before discounts) and use the rest elsewhere.

Yep. The M2C is such a good car and pricing is much more in line with the performance. The dealer here has the CS sitting next to a C and I think it is probably not helping their cause. Most people don’t understand why there is a 30k difference between those two “identical” cars.

[killerdeck]

Originally Posted by beemerman1984

Yep. The M2C is such a good car and pricing is much more in line with the performance. The dealer here has the CS sitting next to a C and I think it is probably not helping their cause. Most people don’t understand why there is a 30k difference between those two “identical” cars.

This is exactly the reason why I will either go Comp or stick with my OG M2. The pricing differential with all discounts is exactly $30K, for my situation. It translates into over a 150% premium monthly with 0.9%/60 month financing.

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by beemerman1984

Yep. The M2C is such a good car and pricing is much more in line with the performance. The dealer here has the CS sitting next to a C and I think it is probably not helping their cause. Most people don’t understand why there is a 30k difference between those two “identical” cars.

They should just put up the 100-200kph times for the two cars next to them to convey the difference:

M2C: 10.59
M2CS: 8.21

[ptgltw]

Originally Posted by beemerman1984

Most people don’t understand why there is a 30k difference between those two “identical” cars.

It’s a limited production car. They only need 2200 people to get it and that’s no problem. Unlike the e30 m3 and ltw these cars will all be gone within months of hitting the shores

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by JRobUSC

I must say, that was surprising to read - I have paid hefty sums over the years for high BMS Australian Wagyu and never regretted the cost because of how much better that beef was than what we have here.

It's not the meat, it's how they prepare it that separates the steaks in the US from what we have in Aus

Also, my comment wasn't meaning Australian steak is not good, in fact it's great. It's just that US steak is simply amazing

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

It's not the meat, it's how they prepare it that separates the steaks in the US from what we have in Aus

Wagyu is overrated, just like the CS. Just get "choice" cut steak and an M2C, and save the extra money.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Wagyu is overrated, just like the CS. Just get "choice" cut steak and an M2C, and save the extra money.

Have you ever had Wagyu?

And, don't you own a BSM M2 CS?

[Alpine*]

I’d have bought a Boxster Spyder before I bought the CS, but in Aus that’s an easy 50% premium decision to make in terms of price. The Porsche isn’t that much better, ever.

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Have you ever had Wagyu?

And, don't you own a BSM M2 CS?

You didn't catch the sarcasm. I figured the fact that i had a CS would have given it away.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Easily one of the best BMW on sale today, and the best driver's car BMW has offered after E-Generation vehicles. Sadly once this generation is out of production I worry for the future of BMW and M. The M2 whether in OG, Comp, or CS trim has been BMW's saving grace in the last few years, the prime example of "The Ultimate Driving Machine" taking the M3's title/position in the lineup. Whether the next generation of M2 and M cars can carry on that position is awaited to be seen.

‼️

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Alpine*

I'd have bought a Boxster Spyder before I bought the CS, but in Aus that's an easy 50% premium decision to make in terms of price. The Porsche isn't that much better, ever.

I like 718 Spyder a lot but that's a huge reason to stay away from it

But that Spyder actually is a very good car

I just prefer a boosted car

[2nd chance]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

To the M2 CS owners: Never sell your car, protect the paint, and keep the mileage as low as only possible. This car will cost a fortune in 20 years.

Already some new examples for 88.000 Euro's...

WTF, Just drive the damn thing!!!

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

I like 718 Spyder a lot but that's a huge reason to stay away from it

But that Spyder actually is a very good car

I just prefer a boosted car

I was actually going to get a new Spyder in PDK before the M2 CS (actually pulled my deposit today on the Spyder officially). I used to have an s2000 and love the top down driving experience. The Spyder is probably the definitive top down car ever and I think a better car for me than a GT4 would be (love convertibles and don't do track days). It still suffers from tall gearing in both manual and the PDK is only slight better.

But if I change my mind, there still should be a couple years to order a new one, or I could get a 987.2 Spyder (which is a great car if you can find a good used one) or get a manual used Gen 1 or Gen 2 and do the sharkwerks trans swap.

Ultimately I regretted waiving a 1M allocation years back and the M2 CS kind of rights that wrong. I think so far, i have a hard time thinking I'd part with the CS just cause it's such an engaging road car at both low speeds and high speeds.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

I was actually going to get a new Spyder in PDK before the M2 CS (actually pulled my deposit today on the Spyder officially). I used to have an s2000 and love the top down driving experience. The Spyder is probably the definitive top down car ever and I think a better car for me than a GT4 would be (love convertibles and don't do track days). It still suffers from tall gearing in both manual and the PDK is only slight better.

But if I change my mind, there still should be a couple years to order a new one, or I could get a 987.2 Spyder (which is a great car if you can find a good used one) or get a manual used Gen 1 or Gen 2 and do the sharkwerks trans swap.

Ultimately I regretted waiving a 1M allocation years back and the M2 CS kind of rights that wrong.

Yeah adding PDK was super smart of Porsche

I cannot get that car out of my brain

Handling is phenomenal

Timeless design

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Yeah adding PDK was super smart of Porsche

I cannot get that car out of my brain

Handling is phenomenal

Timeless design

I will just say, there will be a lot of used examples in years coming. Not that there will be much depreciation, but those were not limited cars in Gen 2 and they should make the 718 at least for 2022 model year (maybe 2023).

If rumors are that the boxster is going full electric or turbo again, could be smart to snag that final model year. They will never drop in value again if the 8k rpm engines are discontinued.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by beemerman1984

Most people don't understand why there is a 30k difference between those two "identical" cars.

respectfully, if someone doesn't understand why there is a difference in price, then they don't understand the car.

A reasonable option for this group of people, I submit, is to stick with the 'better' car which is M2C

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

I will just say, there will be a lot of used examples in years coming. Not that there will be much depreciation, but those were not limited cars in Gen 2 and they should make the 718 at least for 2022 model year (maybe 2023).

If rumors are that the boxster is going full electric or turbo again, could be smart to snag that final model year. They will never drop in value again if the 8k rpm engines are discontinued.

The 16's are money

I'd buy an Electric version

But I expect that's more than 5 years away

Porsche has been testing them for over 10 years now



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