BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW M2 Forum > M2 vs... > It's official: (Lap times) TT RS faster than M2, M4 and M6.

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-14-2017, 02:01 PM   #45
MR_M2
Lieutenant
518
Rep
442
Posts

Drives: 2017 M2 6MT, 2022 X7 M50i
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
BMW M2  [0.00]
BMW X7 M50i  [0.00]
Ah! Good ole bench racing
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2017, 03:16 PM   #46
M2GranCoupeOLEDlights
Second Lieutenant
45
Rep
243
Posts

Drives: Bmw M2
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Puerto Rico

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin_NL View Post
Sorry, wrong model.

Get your facts straight.
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2017, 03:17 PM   #47
M2GranCoupeOLEDlights
Second Lieutenant
45
Rep
243
Posts

Drives: Bmw M2
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Puerto Rico

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmboone25 View Post
But it doesn't make sense to just say "faster" because that is not a specifically defined term, or at least it hasn't been in the context of this thread - does he mean 0-60? 40-80? 1/4 mile time? 1 mile time? Ring time?

Without any context, there's no way to tell what he's talking about. Which defeats the purpose of saying something is "faster".

Context? I mentioned the 1/4, 0-62 AND lap times...on 4 models, different tracks. What more context do you want?
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2017, 03:30 PM   #48
Robin_NL
S0THPAW
Robin_NL's Avatar
8680
Rep
7,846
Posts

Drives: HS M2 Competition
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: The Netherlands

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M2GranCoupeOLEDlights View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmboone25 View Post
But it doesn't make sense to just say "faster" because that is not a specifically defined term, or at least it hasn't been in the context of this thread - does he mean 0-60? 40-80? 1/4 mile time? 1 mile time? Ring time?

Without any context, there's no way to tell what he's talking about. Which defeats the purpose of saying something is "faster".

Context? I mentioned the 1/4, 0-62 AND lap times...on 4 models, different tracks. What more context do you want?
What about the track where the TT RS lost from a lousy A45 AMG because it wasn't on appropriate (winter ) tyres .lol

But you had your facts straight . Sort of. Not


Because the M2 just looks better, is cheaper, has a better sound(MPE) drives better, steers better, has shorter braking distances , has a better balance, has 30hp less and weighs a few tons more and can easily keep up on the twisties we just prefer it to the TT RS that's all

Anyway you made your point a few times. Now it's time to say goodbye amigo. You did your job. Gracias and better go and find some Audi TT forum . We had our fun. But now it's time the adults take over. Thank you .

Cheers
Robin
Appreciate 1
BruceM983.00
      03-14-2017, 03:37 PM   #49
M2GranCoupeOLEDlights
Second Lieutenant
45
Rep
243
Posts

Drives: Bmw M2
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Puerto Rico

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin_NL View Post
What about the track where the TT RS lost from a lousy A45 AMG because it wasn't on appropriate (winter ) tyres .lol


Because the M2 just looks better, is cheaper, has a better sound(MPE) drives better, steers better, has shorter braking distances , has a better balance, has 30hp less and weighs a few tons more and can easily keep up on the twisties we just prefer it to the TT RS that's all

Anyway you made your point a few times. Now it's time to say goodbye amigo. You did your job. Gracias and better go and find some Audi TT forum . We had our fun. But now it's time the adults take over. Thank you .

Cheers
Robin
Looks are subjective. Sound is not, you are being illogical. Do a survey. 90% will prefer TT RS.

You mention that is streets and brakes etc. better, yet on ALL MARGINS it is slower, so you should simply say "I think it is probably funner, even though it is slower".

You're barely an adult and biased up the wazoo

I did my research, all that needs to be done is test drive the TT RS.

I tested the M2 and it was fun, but the interior AND exterior, with its price tag made me feel like: "this is it?" Instant 2-series quality is just unacceptable for me, that's all. Remember, I live in a tropical paradise unlike you, we get higher taxes!
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2017, 03:48 PM   #50
M2GranCoupeOLEDlights
Second Lieutenant
45
Rep
243
Posts

Drives: Bmw M2
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Puerto Rico

iTrader: (0)

As for the video with the AMG:

The Driver/journalist was not a professional, like, you know a track? Where the TT RS was faster in all for them?

Sorry!

How about you post a video comparing exhausts? How about you post some lap times? You know you will lose

Again, not talking about fun, just about facts and common sense, 2 things you seem to be lacking the grasp of.
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2017, 03:52 PM   #51
Robin_NL
S0THPAW
Robin_NL's Avatar
8680
Rep
7,846
Posts

Drives: HS M2 Competition
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: The Netherlands

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M2GranCoupeOLEDlights View Post
As for the video with the AMG:

1. No road is like that.

2. Driver/journalist was not a professional, like, you know a track? There the TT RS was faster in all for them?
He was just like the evo guys nothing more nothing less. And all the cars were on the same rubber. Talking about getting your facts straight

In autobild test the m2 is faster through real life gears. Fwiw.


Looks are subjective and so is sound. I was just giving you a taste of your own medicine amigo

Enjoy your paradise while it lasts. My m2 was 83k ? .....:/


Cheers
Robin
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2017, 03:54 PM   #52
M2GranCoupeOLEDlights
Second Lieutenant
45
Rep
243
Posts

Drives: Bmw M2
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Puerto Rico

iTrader: (0)

If I paid 83,000 for a car with such bad interiors, I'd be super dissapointment. But that's just me.

Glad you enjoy it!
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2017, 03:56 PM   #53
Robin_NL
S0THPAW
Robin_NL's Avatar
8680
Rep
7,846
Posts

Drives: HS M2 Competition
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: The Netherlands

iTrader: (0)

Driving cars like Cayman M2 and TT RS is all about facts and nothing about emotion. Thats why you want them and buy them. Because of the paper facts. Not because one car feels better or gives more satisfaction than the other. That doesn't count

A Veyron is faster than an F40 or McLaren F1 or Ruf CTR....


Cheers
Robin
Appreciate 1
JTO245246.50
      03-14-2017, 03:56 PM   #54
M2GranCoupeOLEDlights
Second Lieutenant
45
Rep
243
Posts

Drives: Bmw M2
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Puerto Rico

iTrader: (0)

It is just striking !
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2017, 04:00 PM   #55
Robin_NL
S0THPAW
Robin_NL's Avatar
8680
Rep
7,846
Posts

Drives: HS M2 Competition
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: The Netherlands

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M2GranCoupeOLEDlights View Post
If I paid 83,000 for a car with such bad interiors, I'd be super dissapointment. But that's just me.

Glad you enjoy it!
I love it. It steers great looks the best. I live less than an hour from Germany . Next week track day . I'm blessed

How is your paradise lol looking at pictures of a TT RS


Cheers
Robin
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2017, 04:00 PM   #56
M2GranCoupeOLEDlights
Second Lieutenant
45
Rep
243
Posts

Drives: Bmw M2
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Puerto Rico

iTrader: (0)

Looks amazing modded too.

A car that has an amazing exterior, interior, sounds amazing and is fastest yet safest? Sign me up!

My paradise? Perennial summer, best beaches in the world, everything except the cars is cheaper than in the US but same quality and food is A-MA-ZING! We also have one of the highest count of sportscars per country population in the world!

Tons of tuners, several speedways and tracks. Many people from the US travel to PR to compete, its pretty great. And the girls, well I'm sure you can imagine.
Attached Images
     

Last edited by M2GranCoupeOLEDlights; 03-14-2017 at 04:10 PM..
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2017, 04:04 PM   #57
Robin_NL
S0THPAW
Robin_NL's Avatar
8680
Rep
7,846
Posts

Drives: HS M2 Competition
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: The Netherlands

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M2GranCoupeOLEDlights View Post
Looks amazing modded too.

A car that looks this good exterior, interior, sounds amazing and is fastest yet safest? Sign me up!


Cheers
Matthew Murdock
Appreciate 2
nd2002178.50
JTO245246.50
      03-14-2017, 04:11 PM   #58
Dav3
Major
Dav3's Avatar
947
Rep
1,027
Posts

Drives: G87 M2/E89 35is/F21 M140i/GT4
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Europe

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M2GranCoupeOLEDlights View Post
Looks amazing modded too.

A car that looks this good exterior, interior, sounds amazing and is fastest yet safest? Sign me up!

My paradise? Perennial summer, everything except the cars is cheaper than in the US but same quality and food is A-MA-ZING! We also have one of the highest count of sportscars per miles/people sold in tbe world!

Tons of tuners, several speedways and tracks. Many people from the US travel to PR to compete, its pretty great. And the girls, well I'm sure you can imagine.
You do realise that those photos are basically a fully specced audi tt-rs that will cost 100k+, yeh?

Say what you want, the TT for me has historically been a hairdressers car much like the Z4 and the SLK.
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2017, 04:15 PM   #59
dmboone25
Lieutenant General
dmboone25's Avatar
4971
Rep
10,200
Posts

Drives: 2024 Golf R / 2022 718 Spyder
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Dallas, TX

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 E92 328i  [10.00]
2007 328i  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by M2GranCoupeOLEDlights View Post
Looks are subjective. Sound is not, you are being illogical. Do a survey. 90% will prefer TT RS.

You mention that is streets and brakes etc. better, yet on ALL MARGINS it is slower, so you should simply say "I think it is probably funner, even though it is slower".

You're barely an adult and biased up the wazoo

I did my research, all that needs to be done is test drive the TT RS.

I tested the M2 and it was fun, but the interior AND exterior, with its price tag made me feel like: "this is it?" Instant 2-series quality is just unacceptable for me, that's all. Remember, I live in a tropical paradise unlike you, we get higher taxes!
Sound is absolutely subjective. Some prefer I6 over a F6. Or a V8 over a 5 cylinder - they ALL have their own respective merits.

Just because you say something, and truly believe it, doesn't mean that anyone else must feel the same way.

When it comes to tracks, it is important to note things like tire equivalency, same day, same driver, etc...those things matter quite a bit. I am not sure if those equivalencies have been noted in the claims you're making.

For example, most pundits believe that a 718 CS would actually be faster around the Ring on the same day with the tires that come standard on a GT4. Does that mean you'd take the 718 CS over the GT4? I know I wouldn't - and while I am sure there are some that would, absolute lap times and 0-60 times aren't what this segment is about. It's about finding the car that fits you, your budget, and your needs.
__________________
Past rides: 2016 981 BGTS, 2020 MINI JCW, 2017 F80, 2015 981 CS, 2014 F22 235, 2011 E82 135, 2008 E82 135, 2007 E92 328, 2007 E92 328 (My lady drives an OG M2. So does my dad)
Appreciate 3
Robin_NL8679.50
JTO245246.50
      03-14-2017, 04:22 PM   #60
M2GranCoupeOLEDlights
Second Lieutenant
45
Rep
243
Posts

Drives: Bmw M2
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Puerto Rico

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lop00 View Post
You do realise that those photos are basically a fully specced audi tt-rs that will cost 100k+, yeh?

Say what you want, the TT for me has historically been a hairdressers car much like the Z4 and the SLK.
This is such an ignorant comment.

You sir are blind. Also, the only options are carbon fiber??? Everything else is standard except maybe the wheels...

So 70k instead of 100k haha!
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2017, 04:26 PM   #61
No Boost
enthusiasm > practicality
No Boost's Avatar
United_States
4019
Rep
2,247
Posts

Drives: 987 CS | G35x
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Chester County, PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmboone25 View Post
Sound is absolutely subjective. Some prefer I6 over a F6. Or a V8 over a 5 cylinder - they ALL have their own respective merits.

Just because you say something, and truly believe it, doesn't mean that anyone else must feel the same way.

When it comes to tracks, it is important to note things like tire equivalency, same day, same driver, etc...those things matter quite a bit. I am not sure if those equivalencies have been noted in the claims you're making.

For example, most pundits believe that a 718 CS would actually be faster around the Ring on the same day with the tires that come standard on a GT4. Does that mean you'd take the 718 CS over the GT4? I know I wouldn't - and while I am sure there are some that would, absolute lap times and 0-60 times aren't what this segment is about. It's about finding the car that fits you, your budget, and your needs.
Stop it! You're making way too much sense for this thread.
__________________
FSI 3.8L Stg II|6MT|SOUL|IPD+GT3 TB|Numeric Racing|KW|Tarett|Rennline|Raceseng|APEX|Recaro|7.3 lb/hp
VQ35HR|5AT|Stillen|FI|UpRev tune 8k rpm|TransGo|Hotchkis|Whiteline|H&R|Z1|Corbeau|R1 Concepts|10 lb/hp
Left lane campers, GTFO!
Appreciate 3
dmboone254970.50
M2Dynamic183.50
      03-14-2017, 06:26 PM   #62
krizze
Lieutenant
Czech_Republic
924
Rep
483
Posts

Drives: 718 GT4 -Skoda Octavia VRS
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: .

iTrader: (0)

Actually i do see where this guy is coming from, the TTRS is a marvellous piece of engineering the interior is out of this world with the tech being next level, with all this however, its still and always will be regarded as a Hairdressers car or be it a flight attendants dream

i love my M2 but i am no fan boy, i too agree the M2 lacks in certain areas but you will get that with every car on the market now, there will always be something that is missing or bothers you no matter what brand, make or model.

but if i had money to buy a TTRS, then it be a no brainer for me to save a few more months and find a Cayman GT4
Appreciate 1
JTO245246.50
      03-14-2017, 07:34 PM   #63
MR_M2
Lieutenant
518
Rep
442
Posts

Drives: 2017 M2 6MT, 2022 X7 M50i
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
BMW M2  [0.00]
BMW X7 M50i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by krizze View Post
but if i had money to buy a TTRS, then it be a no brainer for me to save a few more months and find a Cayman GT4
This!!
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2017, 11:58 PM   #64
ClothSeats
Lieutenant
341
Rep
561
Posts

Drives: 17 1LE
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Houston

iTrader: (0)

As fast as it is (very fast), and as nice an interior it has (quite nice), it's still front engine transverse layout with FWD-bias AWD. This platform is shared with the Golf and Audi A3, good cars to be sure, but costing less than a similarly advanced RWD platform with a superior F-R weight distribution. Note that the new Audi RS5 with a longitudinal layout and Torsen 40/60 AWD is 80k euros.
Appreciate 2
Robin_NL8679.50
BruceM983.00
      03-15-2017, 01:55 AM   #65
chris719
Major General
7273
Rep
7,252
Posts

Drives: '08 M Roadster
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

The shape of the TT has always been a bit wrong for a supposed "sports car". It's better in this gen, but still too bulbous and vaguely reminiscent of a new Beetle.
Appreciate 3
Robin_NL8679.50
Dav3946.50
geogerf115.50
      03-15-2017, 02:29 AM   #66
nd2002
First Lieutenant
nd2002's Avatar
179
Rep
295
Posts

Drives: 2017 M2
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (0)

Meh, TTRS doesn't have window frames, either. Both cars suck.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:06 AM.




m2
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST