[3LiterBeater]

Originally Posted by hAxel

Went to Summit Point (main) recently. Unfortunately didn't get my best laps recorded (one set I had a passenger and didn't want the GoPro in his face, the other set with my better laps I was trying to get the GoPro to work with LapTimer and decided to do a firmware update which turned out to be a bad idea). On the recorded set of laps, I got a 1:24.728 my fastest for the day was a 1:23.49.

Summit Point
2020 M2C - 1:23.49
GoodYear Eagle F1 Supercar 3R
763M Wheels
Ohlins Road&Track with Vorshlag camber plates
Akrapovic Exhaust
Eventuri Intakes
ECUTek tune by Bend Calibration (~45% ethanol on this run)

Headed there this weekend, my hope is you guys out down some decent rubber for us, lol

[hAxel]

Originally Posted by 3LiterBeater

Headed there this weekend, my hope is you guys out down some decent rubber for us, lol

Nice, have fun, I'm already wanting to go back, I need to get out there more, last year this time I went out once for the same private event I did this time and I told myself I'd go more, then I never went out until that private event last month. I definitely laid down a little extra rubber in turn 5 on one of my runs

[3LiterBeater]

Managed my personal best 1:25.6 at Summit Main on street pads (stoptech sports) and on stock power/ tire size this weekend.

Ended the weekend early when the left front brake pad decided to leave the backing plate and made for some very unpleasant sounds.

Time to stop playing on street pads and upgrade to some better stoppers and rubbers!

17 6MT, Federal 595 RS-Pro, ST XTA coilovers, Stock power

[nando_514]

NJMP Thunderbolt

132.81

2018 M2 with Vorshlag camber plates and OEM sized PS4s

[nando_514]

Originally Posted by Lappy

Went out to a TNIA at Thunderbolt. First time in the car on track, only modifications are Gloc r12/r10 pads and 275/30/19 Falken 200TW tires on stock wheels. The rear tires were toast so the car was def sketchy but still a good time. Saw a bunch of M2's out there, any one in here?

Hey nice lap! Went out there yesterday with SCDA. Was my first time at NJMP, wasn’t trying to go for a heater lap, but still managed to bring home a 132.81 (ApexPro). My theoretical was a 32.2, but I reckon a 31 is more than doable with a bit more experience on the course. Apex score indicated I was timid in T3, and losing a bit in T5. “Octopus” (T10-12) was hit or miss… Still need to find my way through there. In any case, absolutely beautiful facilities at NJMP, will definitely go again!

Car is a showroom stock 2018 M2 with Vorshlag camber plates and OEM sized PS4S (on my 6th track day with them!)

[SEAT TIME RULES]

Originally Posted by nando_514

Lime Rock Park

1:00:62 (Apex Pro)

2018 stock M2, Vorshlag camber plates, PS4S

Nice time on a Stock car. What tires were you running?

[nando_514]

Originally Posted by SEAT TIME RULES

Nice time on a Stock car. What tires were you running?

Thanks! I was running OEM sized Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. I love these tires! This was my 6th track day on them and they still have around 40-50% of the tread left.

I’ve never run anything more aggressive than these Michelins at HPDEs—always used basic street tires in all my time on track. I picked up a set of used Goodyear Eagle 3Rs from another forum member to finally try out some sticky rubber! Wish me luck hahaha

EDIT: Just noticed you replied to my LRP time, sorry about that! Everything is the same, but I had only 4 track days on the tires at that time. Apex Pro data suggests a high 59 is possible on these tires, but I need to commit more coming into the downhill. Only reaching about 80% of potential as I approach the final corner. In fact, dvas was there that day I ran the 1:00.6, always great talking to that guy!!

[pal]

Track: Buttonwillow Raceway, Clockwise Configuration #1 (Star Mazda, Off Ramp)
Best Lap: 2:12.70.

2018 BMW M2
KW Clubsports w/ -2.8 front camber w/zero toe, -2 degrees rear camber w/factory toe
Ferodo DS3.12 brake pads
Castrol SRF brake fluid
BMW 513M wheels with 255/40 & 275/40 Good Year Eagle Supercar3 (day 5)
Akra exahust & 300 cell downpipe
Stock motor & tune

Ran into a GT4 being driven conservatively braking into Star Mazda and didn't get a point-by until after the esses, and then had to go offline into Sunset. Compared my sector time (from braking for Star Mazda to braking for Sunrise) to the previous slower lap and I lost about 0.8s.

[omark2398]

Willow Springs Streets of Willow CW: 1:20.9
Camber plates and Nankang CR-S 200tw tires

[omark2398]

Buttonwillow Raceway 13CW 1:57.0
Terrible lap. Drifted all of Riverside and struggled a lot with the rear end at speed. 21 M2C with camber plates and Nankang CR-S tires

[Lappy]

Originally Posted by nando_514

Hey nice lap! Went out there yesterday with SCDA. Was my first time at NJMP, wasn’t trying to go for a heater lap, but still managed to bring home a 132.81 (ApexPro). My theoretical was a 32.2, but I reckon a 31 is more than doable with a bit more experience on the course. Apex score indicated I was timid in T3, and losing a bit in T5. “Octopus” (T10-12) was hit or miss… Still need to find my way through there. In any case, absolutely beautiful facilities at NJMP, will definitely go again!

Car is a showroom stock 2018 M2 with Vorshlag camber plates and OEM sized PS4S (on my 6th track day with them!)

Thanks, that was a frustrating day lol. Btwn all the traffic, dead tires, and muggy conditions I was just relieved it was over basically.

[nando_514]

Hey everyone! Just got back from attending VIR. It was my first time at the track, and I can say without a doubt, of all the tracks I've been to, VIR is the best! The track just has it ALL-- character, challenge, and above all, speed!

Although it was one of the last events of the year, there were a good amount of drivers that were in attendance. Unfortunately, I didn't have my best outing.. I struggled with copious amounts of traffic (came into the pit a total of 12 times throughout the day to get a gap), managed tired PS4s with 7 full track days on them, and less than ideal pad material to start the day with.. You'll be able to get an idea of traffic by how w i d e the timings were in the picture below. In hindsight, given how special/far this event was, I should've been more prepared.

Despite that, I managed to put down a 2:08.67 (with traffic) and a theoretical of 2:07.1 or 2:06.8 depending on which data logger I looked at. At the end of the day, I left a bit on the table and can't wait to go back next year!



2018 M2 - Completely stock, Vorshlag camber plates, OEM-sized Michelin PS4S, Endless MX72 pads

[richard in NC]

Originally Posted by nando_514

Hey everyone! Just got back from attending VIR. It was my first time at the track, and I can say without a doubt, of all the tracks I've been to, VIR is the best! The track just has it ALL-- character, challenge, and above all, speed!

Although it was one of the last events of the year, there were a good amount of drivers that were in attendance. Unfortunately, I didn't have my best outing.. I struggled with copious amounts of traffic (came into the pit a total of 12 times throughout the day to get a gap), managed tired PS4s with 7 full track days on them, and less than ideal pad material to start the day with.. You'll be able to get an idea of traffic by how w i d e the timings were in the picture below. In hindsight, given how special/far this event was, I should've been more prepared.

Despite that, I managed to put down a 2:08.67 (with traffic) and a theoretical of 2:07.1 or 2:06.8 depending on which data logger I looked at. At the end of the day, I left a bit on the table and can't wait to go back next year!



2018 M2 - Completely stock, Vorshlag camber plates, OEM-sized Michelin PS4S, Endless MX72 pads

I feel 2:08 is impressive for a first timer at VIR with a nearly stock car. A shame with so much traffic to not get to consistent times. I do need to step up to the PS4S next time, I think they're better for track than the PSS.

[Anonymoose]

Originally Posted by richard in NC

I feel 2:08 is impressive for a first timer at VIR with a nearly stock car. A shame with so much traffic to not get to consistent times. I do need to step up to the PS4S next time, I think they're better for track than the PSS.

They really do. I have a set on ec7s that's on consignment at GMP. 3 track days and still plenty of tire left if you're interested.

[nando_514]

Originally Posted by richard in NC

I feel 2:08 is impressive for a first timer at VIR with a nearly stock car. A shame with so much traffic to not get to consistent times. I do need to step up to the PS4S next time, I think they're better for track than the PSS.

Thank you, I really appreciate that! I am a "first timer" but to be fair, I've churned out hundreds and hundreds of laps on the sim on VIR. As soon as I left the pit heading into the first session, I instantly felt like I've been here before. Traffic was definitely a bummer, but I had a smile on my face every minute of it! For any of you wondering if you should make the trip to VIR one day, do it lol! It was the first time I genuinely scared on track, and left time on the table out of sheer fear. Flying into those esses at 127 MPH is no joke! I WILL hit 207s next time out, I know it! A theoretical 206 is possible, but I don't know if I have the guts for it... But I'm gonna try lol





As far as the PSS vs PS4 debate, take with a grain of salt, but I did 2 track days in my M2 completely showroom stock (PSS). I had already run PS4s for about 1-2 years before, in my previous car, so I knew what PS4s felt like. Subjectively, the PSS felt like a PS4 that never quite graduated... There were flashes of similarity, but they felt kind of dumber(?). I didn't get the same responses or feedback I would normally get from a PS4. The comfort and road noises were slightly increased, but not by much. Unfortunately, I never got the chance to compare real timed wet performance, but I believe wet manners were great, but the PS4s are just that much better in the rain. I feel like a hero during wet track days on a PS4. The grip is consistent and surprisingly gradual on a PS4. The PSS just kinda drops off a table so to say.

Objectively, I was able to run within 2-3 tenths when comparing PBs. Resistance to heat was *about the same. Wearing happens faster on the PSS than it does on the PS4. While my used PSSs still had a fair amount of tread life left, so do the current PS4s, but I also have 7 full track days and 15K road miles on them! I believe the PS4 is the better tire, especially considering the price of an OE PSS. But with regards to setting a fast time, you can get the job done on a PSS without a doubt. Its a fantastic tire and definitely no slouch! Much better than other tires I've tried in the past. But at the end of the day, I am driving on PS4s for a reason!

[richard in NC]

Originally Posted by nando_514

As far as the PSS vs PS4 debate, take with a grain of salt, but I did 2 track days in my M2 completely showroom stock (PSS). I had already run PS4s for about 1-2 years before, in my previous car, so I knew what PS4s felt like. Subjectively, the PSS felt like a PS4 that never quite graduated... There were flashes of similarity, but they felt kind of dumber(?). I didn't get the same responses or feedback I would normally get from a PS4. The comfort and road noises were slightly increased, but not by much. Unfortunately, I never got the chance to compare real timed wet performance, but I believe wet manners were great, but the PS4s are just that much better in the rain. I feel like a hero during wet track days on a PS4. The grip is consistent and surprisingly gradual on a PS4. The PSS just kinda drops off a table so to say.

Objectively, I was able to run within 2-3 tenths when comparing PBs. Resistance to heat was *about the same. Wearing happens faster on the PSS than it does on the PS4. While my used PSSs still had a fair amount of tread life left, so do the current PS4s, but I also have 7 full track days and 15K road miles on them! I believe the PS4 is the better tire, especially considering the price of an OE PSS. But with regards to setting a fast time, you can get the job done on a PSS without a doubt. Its a fantastic tire and definitely no slouch! Much better than other tires I've tried in the past. But at the end of the day, I am driving on PS4s for a reason!

I've only had the PSS on the M2C. On an F10 M5, I went from PSS to P-Zero to PS4S so no direct comparison. The P-Zeros had less dry grip and far less wet grip than either. I'd say the PSS had a similar max dry grip to the PS4S but had a narrower temp range for that grip. The PS4S stick well cold and stay that way until many laps in. The PSS have good wet grip (I had no issues with PSS on a very wet CMP last year.) but the PS4S was even better.

Therefore switching to PS4S is primarily for consistency and improved wet grip.

[AWC-F87]

Buttonwillow cw13 2:02 flat

[AWC-F87]

Buttonwillow CW13

[pal]

Originally Posted by omark2398

Buttonwillow Raceway 13CW 1:57.0
Terrible lap. Drifted all of Riverside and struggled a lot with the rear end at speed. 21 M2C with camber plates and Nankang CR-S tires

Thoughts on the CR-S? Also, what sizes were you using?

[M2C KCMO]

Heartland Park 2:03.73 with chicane but I know many other M2s down in the 1:5x range, I'm not even close.

[omark2398]

Originally Posted by pal

Thoughts on the CR-S? Also, what sizes were you using?

I liked them. They feel like any other cheater 200tw (RT660, RE71R, Etc.). Drop off after a couple of laps. I ran 245/35/17 in the fronts and their 275/35/17 in the back. They do run about 10mm wider than they claim.

[M2joey]

Originally Posted by nando_514

Hey everyone! Just got back from attending VIR. It was my first time at the track, and I can say without a doubt, of all the tracks I've been to, VIR is the best! The track just has it ALL-- character, challenge, and above all, speed!

Although it was one of the last events of the year, there were a good amount of drivers that were in attendance. Unfortunately, I didn't have my best outing.. I struggled with copious amounts of traffic (came into the pit a total of 12 times throughout the day to get a gap), managed tired PS4s with 7 full track days on them, and less than ideal pad material to start the day with.. You'll be able to get an idea of traffic by how w i d e the timings were in the picture below. In hindsight, given how special/far this event was, I should've been more prepared.

Despite that, I managed to put down a 2:08.67 (with traffic) and a theoretical of 2:07.1 or 2:06.8 depending on which data logger I looked at. At the end of the day, I left a bit on the table and can't wait to go back next year!



2018 M2 - Completely stock, Vorshlag camber plates, OEM-sized Michelin PS4S, Endless MX72 pads

This is such a great lap, I almost want to say "glitch". That is a really great time for your setup, and experience level!

My goal is to get into the 2:07s this year. I believe I know where I can improve the time as well. I feel 2:07s is about the best anyone can do in a "stock" OG M2.