[bitcore]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

No manual = already off my list.

Same here.

[vladberca]

On track M2 will destroy them

[BlueRoundel]

Originally Posted by tke743

A lot of us only had access to the CLA45 for 45 minutes or so. That Dual Clutch was a disaster. Pull the paddle, wait for (what feels like an eternity) probably .5 seconds then it slips into the next gear. By slipping in I'm refering to it not directly engaging, but instead acting like a noob slipping the clutch while learning stick. It was so bad I thought the one they gave me to test was defective. Tried a second one and same thing. Dual clutch boxes are awesome, this one was shocking. Not on a good way.

Drove these back to back with an auto M235i and the ZF is a masterpiece vs this box.

Maybe they improved it since then, but in July last year it was indescribably bad.

Generally the upshift isn't bad, quite quick gear changes in fact. But the downshifting in the A/CLA 45 was just slow and hesitant, so every time when you downshift into a corner you're left pressing on the pedal shifter earlier, anticipate that downshift.

Heard it has something to do with Merc purposely making it laggier than conventional DCT, to prevent the gearbox from destroy ing itself (not too sure where I read this)

[BMoney]

Originally Posted by BlueRoundel

Generally the upshift isn't bad, quite quick gear changes in fact. But the downshifting in the A/CLA 45 was just slow and hesitant, so every time when you downshift into a corner you're left pressing on the pedal shifter earlier, anticipate that downshift.

Heard it has something to do with Merc purposely making it lggier than conventional DCT, to prevent the gearbox from destroy ing itself (not too sure where I read this)

Quite the opposite for me. Downshifts are very snappy but upshifts can occasionally lag.

I'm guessing they got it right now though.

http://www.netcarshow.com/mercedes-b...45_amg_4matic/

[tke743]

Originally Posted by BMoney

Quite the opposite for me. Downshifts are very snappy but upshifts can occasionally lag.

I'm guessing they got it right now though.

http://www.netcarshow.com/mercedes-b...45_amg_4matic/

I'll test one again soon then, but previously it was embarrassing. I had it in sport and "snappy" is not a word I would use. I would have used "slow witted" or "1970's GM automatic simulation".

[BlueRoundel]

Originally Posted by BMoney

Quite the opposite for me. Downshifts are very snappy but upshifts can occasionally lag.

I'm guessing they got it right now though.

http://www.netcarshow.com/mercedes-b...45_amg_4matic/

Was this in sports manual mode? The last time I test drove the car was April last year, so wouldn't be surprised at all if the software has been tweaked and improved since. I was actually considering the 45 AMG over M235i and the 3er, but ultimately I didn't follow through with it because I didn't quite like the gear box and it was a 12 month wait for the car.

380hp from a 2 litre is just impressive and bonkers from an engineering standpoint. But you'd have to wonder about how reliable it is. That much power from a small engine, something has to give.

[moldcad]

Originally Posted by tke743

A lot of us only had access to the CLA45 for 45 minutes or so. That Dual Clutch was a disaster. Pull the paddle, wait for (what feels like an eternity) probably .5 seconds then it slips into the next gear. By slipping in I'm refering to it not directly engaging, but instead acting like a noob slipping the clutch while learning stick. It was so bad I thought the one they gave me to test was defective. Tried a second one and same thing. Dual clutch boxes are awesome, this one was shocking. Not on a good way.

Drove these back to back with an auto M235i and the ZF is a masterpiece vs this box.

Maybe they improved it since then, but in July last year it was indescribably bad.

Hmm... Would it be possible the Merc DTC is only that bad on the CLA45? Cause I remember in June last year cross-shopping between the A45 AMG and Golf R the gear boxes were comparable (I still preferred the Golf though)...

[BMoney]

Originally Posted by tke743

I'll test one again soon then, but previously it was embarrassing. I had it in sport and "snappy" is not a word I would use. I would have used "slow witted" or "1970's GM automatic simulation".

I usually only drive in M mode with ESP sport on which will split TQ 50/50. I really enjoy the 45 especially with a tune!

S mode is ok but they needed an S+ which is apparently coming for 16. Sounds like some decent changes for the DCT.

Lower ratios: The AMG SPEEDSHIFT DCT 7-speed sport transmission

Another dominant factor in the agile and dynamic character of the power transfer is the AMG SPEEDSHIFT DCT 7-speed sport transmission. Thanks to the now shorter transmission ratios in 3rd to 7th gear, the driver experiences even more dynamic acceleration in all speed ranges. Together with optimised response and shift times, the closer ratio spread ensures better transitions when upshifting.

[BMoney]

Originally Posted by moldcad

Hmm... Would it be possible the Merc DTC is only that bad on the CLA45? Cause I remember in June last year cross-shopping between the A45 AMG and Golf R the gear boxes were comparable (I still preferred the Golf though)...

I think it comes down to what software update you have. I've heard complaints from A\CLA\GLA45 owners.

[David1]

I just drove the merc and the trans sucks around town. Brand new 15.

[IS3andME]

Where were you M2? A friend was looking for you at Goodwood. He wanted to know if you wanted to come out and play.
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