[AlpsRider]

It's no secret that I prefer the M2C, I own one. In defense of the N55 in the OGM2, it does have some beefed up parts compared to the garden variety N55.

[captain slowly]

Originally Posted by VisualEcho

I hope everyone from NY isn't as insulting as you are.

Yes, the brakes are less expensive to service, and will last longer due to the pad material.

And the difference between the 2 cars is pennies compared to the overall cost of the car in the long term.

Lastly, I consider myself a very good troll

I don't think "we" are insulting at all. "We" just call it as "we" see it. Either your uncle is your dad, which is a real possibility where you live, or you are intentionally obtuse. A bit too direct for you?

[Moflow]

Originally Posted by VisualEcho

It's interesting that the N55 was a big selling point for me. I keep cars for many years, usually, and this one will be here for 9 more, and the tried-and-true, all-the-kinks-worked-out N55 fit the bill perfectly. In fact, the only update the S55 got over the N55 (with regards to standard reliability) was a slight tweak to the VANOS system, which led me to believe the engine is pretty bulletproof. And as you know, all N55's aren't created equal, there have been many updates since the first iteration.

But yes, it's not a race engine, and came in all kinds of cars. But I don't plan to track the car.

Heh, i'm another one in the camp of "I specifically wanted the S55...and not just for the increased HP."

I totally get where you're coming from in terms of the N55 being tried and true and having its kinks worked out. That's a good argument.

My opposing argument would be that when worrying about long term durability, i'd rather have the least powerful variant of an engine than the most powerful variant of it. The margins of error got substantially smaller when BMW stuck the N55 in the M2 (which, admittedly BMW realized and tried to address with beefier internals.)

Honestly, so far it doesn't really look like either of us are wrong. The S55 has been showing signs of being a pretty durable engine and the OG M2's have a reputation as being some of the more reliable M cars for their age.

I have to side eye your other argument about the M2C being a worse daily though. You may be right, but that's not how any of us spending 50k-60K on a 2 door coupe make our car buying decisions.

A Camry is, factually speaking a far better daily driver than either car. It does that job objectively better in the same way an M2 does that job better than an M2C.

But tell me honestly, would you be happier overall if you were driving a Camry every day? A car can paradoxically be a "better daily driver" while being a less happy place to spend that time every day. Because at the end of the day, that's ultimately all we want from these cars beyond transportation: To generate the most happiness and the least unhappiness when we are using them. It doesn't matter if a car has a bunch of stuff we don't need because that stuff makes us happy, even when we're not taking advantage of it.

That said, I am 100 percent biased towards the Comp because I own one and somewhere in the back of my mind I want to justify that purchase to myself and to any person who is unlucky enough to be in my way when start going off like an insufferable d-bag about how cool my car is.

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by VisualEcho

Somehow I'm putting that off to user error.

Now you’re just trolling yourself. 🙃

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by DanG

Well at least he doesn’t have wrinkled seats.

[ChrisK]

I have owned both cars ('17 OG M2 and currently a '19 M2C) - I have never once though either was better or worse while daily driving them.
They are both crazy fast in daily traffic.

Can we not be happy to just have one of these fine cars?!

[Cadillac]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

I have owned both cars ('17 OG M2 and currently a '19 M2C) - I have never once though either was better or worse while daily driving them.
They are both crazy fast in daily traffic.

Can we not be happy to just have one of these fine cars?!

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by captain slowly

I don't think "we" are insulting at all. "We" just call it as "we" see it. Either your uncle is your dad, which is a real possibility where you live, or you are intentionally obtuse. A bit too direct for you?

"where you live"

I live in a beautiful "flyover state". You live in a shithole.

Am I doing it right?

[DanG]

Originally Posted by KevinC

"where you live"

I live in a beautiful "flyover state". You live in a shithole.

Am I doing it right?

Name calling doesn’t do anything to prove your point.

Let’s be civil please.

[captain slowly]

Originally Posted by KevinC

"where you live"

I live in a beautiful "flyover state". You live in a shithole.

Am I doing it right?

hehe, beautiful flyover state....good one. Took you 6 pages to come up with this one, huh?