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05-13-2016, 10:04 AM | #134 |
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Funny, I was stuck between an E90 M3 or a F80 M3. I just couldn't live with the F80's awful exhaust. For me, I didn't want to spend that kind of cash on a car and then have to find an exhaust to make it tolerable. However because it'll be my DD, I need stuff like a sat nav that wasn't built when George W Bush was still president, and things like auto-braking in traffic are just so good that I wanted to buy a new car.
I'd just about convinced myself to buy an E90, until I did a track day with the F80 M3, M2, and M235i. The M2 as a driving experience is just so much better than those other cars, plus modern equipment inside means it'll be a legit work car that won't piss me off because I have to pull over to read emailed documents or texted appointment changes. It will also be a far easier car to live with day to day than an E90, which (and I have driven one) can be less than inspiring under 4000rpm. I don't really sit in traffic and I almost never drive the same route every day so driver enjoyment is at the top of my list. That said, I will still probably buy an E90 M3, because they're so underrated. People love to crap on them and don't get that they are probably the last great M car of the previous era. I would say that the M2 is the first great M car of the new turbo era and time will back me up. |
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05-13-2016, 10:21 AM | #135 |
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I had an E90 M3 from '08 to '10 , 6MT. Most overrated BMW(M) I ever had, and my current 1M is my 10th one. I also had an E46 M3(great).
Engine is way too weak in daily driving to feel it going, and on track it's a big fat pig, understeery, after 3 laps at MotoGP Assen my frontbrakes were on fire. Do I really need to go on? LOL Crossplane V8....yeah a real racy engine.... Cheers Robin |
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05-14-2016, 05:32 AM | #136 | |
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05-14-2016, 08:31 AM | #137 | |
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I had an E90 M3 for 6 years. To prep it for track, all I did was install GC camber plates and use Pagid RS19 on track. That's it, and it was a very good track car. Heavy, yes, but balanced and no understeer. Are you going to try to convince me that the 1M, stock, was fully adequate for track? I see them at my local events, all of them have camber plates and pads at a minimum, many also have coilovers.
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05-14-2016, 11:00 AM | #138 | |
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Oversteer on the other hand is everywhere But each to their own. I just love a smaller more nimble and agile car in general(vs more HP) But E90 M3 vs F82 M4. 100% M4. S55 is godlike. Cheers Robin |
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05-14-2016, 11:02 AM | #139 | |
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Guys, I was simply surprised when some of you mentioned tracking any BMW basically (other than a CSL or GTS) without camber plates. In my experience the front strut design requires more camber than available in stock form, otherwise you will destroy/cord the outer edge of the tire. Camber plates not only have the beneficial effect of reducing understeer, but they save your front tires so you don't have to buy so many of them. BMW has gotten better over the years, generally, with front suspension geometry. Last year I took the F80 on track for the first time (with Pagids) and I was surprised at how well it did on stock everything else. It did chew more through the outer tire edge but not catastrophically so, and I'm waiting to see what it will do with some track rubber tomorrow. It may still need a camber plate though. And I'd be surprised if the M2 didn't follow exactly in the same footsteps, given how much of the M3 suspension hardware it has...
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I thought anywhere around -2.5 to -3.5 deg camber was a typical track day setting |
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05-17-2016, 04:21 PM | #143 | |
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05-19-2016, 11:41 PM | #144 |
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Not gonna lie... That was fucking awesome. Thanks for sharing a video that no one should celebrate. Including me. Still that was bad ass. No really, that guy is a bad person. (loved it)
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