[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by swilliams

LOL. But I do have an old Cherokee xj that I drove last winter.

[ConR]

Originally Posted by mrmoua2u

Wow... name calling already? Did I do you wrong ? No need for it. Its an opinion which you clearly dont understand, or too immature to grasp. The way you talk only goes to show your level of maturity. I dont need to troll with a kid.
You win

Really? You're the one flaunting your M4 and bashing the RS because of it's badge, and I'm the immature one?

If ever there was a troll, it's you, thinking they're better than someone else because of the brand of car they drive.

I'm not a kid. I'm 39. I'm just sick of people like you who bought a BMW because they think it's the cats meow, and nothing else should ever be considered, despite the fact they've never even driven the car they're bashing.

[swilliams]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

LOL. But I do have an old Cherokee xj that I drove last winter.

Figured so. You'd be mad to run a 1M through snow. I drove my BRZ through 2 winters until I moved south. I aint skeered...but my car OCD is.

[adc]

Originally Posted by FogCityM3

Also think Ford would offer full track support like the GT350 for warranty issues, unlike BMW's poseur policy of marketing the Nurburgring and lap times all over their marketing materials and manuals, but once they know you go on the track, you will become persona non grata in terms of having any warranty work done..

Read the Mustang forums about the track problems of the 350 non-track-pack, as well as Ford's indifferent response.

By contrast, my SA knows I track, I show him videos and never BS my way for warranty repairs if I damage or wear something out at the track. In return, they never question my stories.

With my CA, we share track videos - he's an instructor.

[adc]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

...for the M2 considering it's the best car BMW makes.

That's certainly one opinion.

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by ConR

Sure is built in Germany (the RS). And please go ahead. Buy your M2. If all you're concerned about is looks it just proves you're a badge snob.

I actually love the looks of the RS.

Sorry, but I disagree with your statement.

Why not be concerned about looks?
I pay attention to the engineering big time, but if the cars looks like crap (in my opinion of course) and decide between the two based on the looks that makes me a badge snob? C'mon...
The look of the car is very important, is the element that triggers emotions.

While these cars are comparable from some points of view, why not narrow down to design, look, amenities, materials, etc; some folks are looking at residual values for example.

Except I am using the car to move trees, I do care how it looks. For me is equally important and it plays a huge role in my choice; buying a car is an emotional decision.

To compare the tech specs has a point, to call somebody badge snob for his perception is wrong.

De gustibus non est disputandum.

[Mavus]

M2 is a hog. The numbers show it. If RS is this close to M2 it is just as close to M4 and maybe even better on technical tracks. Kudos to Ford. BMW M needs a complete revamp. Next one coming up around corner ... Hyundai

[classyfast]

Originally Posted by eugegall

1) Its a Ford
2) Its still a Ford
3) I'm not a boy racer

Thats they they shouldn't be compared.

Terrible comparison.

I agree on the Ford stuff (even though I think BMW is going in the wrong direction) but dude if you think an M2 is not seen as a boy-racer car by 99.9999% of the world, or if you think that any 2 or 3 series is some luxury car at any trim.....you are seriously delusional.

[classyfast]

Originally Posted by ConR

Good for you mate. Keep letting everyone else know how high you are on yourself. Flash that cash around. Must make you a better person than everyone else.

M4 is not impressive at all, and sounds like garbage. Badge snob for sure.

[Ghetto2315]

Originally Posted by classyfast

M4 is not impressive at all, and sounds like garbage. Badge snob for sure.

Said nobody...

[MRV99]

Yes a BMW is "better" than a Ford in so many ways but this comparison is not talking about "getting laid factor". It is a trac vs trac comparison. Hell my 1990 mustang had 375 rear wheel hp(after a shit ton of wrenching)and I could dust every corvette on the street. I could say "stupid corvette guy got dusted by a mustang", which was true but he could say I have a nice $$$ corvette vs your econo mustang.

Yes who would not prefer a BMW to a Ford but that is not the object of the review. It is performance.

For the record I have a e90 (which I track), a X5 50 and a Ford F-150 so I am a blue oval and blue "propeller" fan.

[technik330]

Originally Posted by eugegall

1) Its a Ford
2) Its still a Ford
3) I'm not a boy racer

Thats they they shouldn't be compared.

Terrible comparison.

So you're saying you're a fanboy?

On a serious note, cool vid and the M2 continues to shine.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Adem1534

Mind if I ask who your crack dealer is?

I laughed

Cheers
Robin

[doccyber]

The only similarity is that both cars are "blue" otherwise this is no comparison. :

[ABPReader]

- M2 vs focus RS
- Gigi hadid vs Ken Block
- Fun car vs retarded AF drift mode
- 6 cyl vs 4 cyl
...

How is it possible to compare these 2 ?

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by ABPReader

- M2 vs focus RS
- Gigi hadid vs Ken Block
- Fun car vs retarded AF drift mode
- 6 cyl vs 4 cyl
...

How is it possible to compare these 2 ?

Because on a track the M2 (with DCT) was just 1/10th quicker. That's why they can be compared.

I thought cars like the M2 and RS was built for performance, but it seems many Bimmerpost members buy cars based on poser and image reasons... And on that ground you are correct. The M2 and RS dont really compare on that level.

But as far as I was able to tell from those two videos, the comparison was on performance. Not posing...

[Gabergab]

Originally Posted by techwhiz

I'm not giving up my tuned e90 for either.
Neither one of them offers enough to sell my E90 and buy one.
The Ford feels cheap.
The M2 offers nothing better.

I have a E92 and I completely agree with you

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by doccyber

The only similarity is that both cars are "blue" otherwise this is no comparison. :

Since the RS lost by a whole 1/10th of a second you mean?

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by mlifxs

apples and oranges comparison for sure.

rs seems pretty good value if performance is the only thing you care about but focus st is an even better value as they can be had at sharp discounts.

would consider an st but here I am stuck in this excellent, fully depreciated e90

That part about performance being the only value and then saying a ST is better value since the ST is discounted didn't make any sense to me...

Focus ST has not been received that well based on it's performance. How can the ST be a better value than a RS if performance is the only thing you care about???

[eugegall]

Originally Posted by ConR

You're just trying to justify the fact that you've bought an M2, and anyone who criticises it in any way causes you to get into defensive mode.

I'm sorry I didn't realise you knew me?

1) I've not bought an M2
2) Defensive mode? When?

[Robban]

I take my hat off for the ford and it is a good value for the money invested.
However personally for me the ford has never been an alternative to the M2.
The only car that could drag me away from the M2 would be the Porsche 718 S

[autopal]

Why is people saying the M2 is faster, when the Ford is a manual transmission vs the M2 DCT? Isn't it pretty obvious the Ford would have beaten the M2 if the M2 had the stick shift?