11-30-2015, 10:11 AM | #89 | |
Banned
7905
Rep 11,785
Posts |
Quote:
I mean.. seriously... what are the odds of two generations of automobile coming in at the EXACT same weight? I would think that Mazda would be a company that is so focused on weight that this could happen with a Miata or something.... but probably not any other manufacturer. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2015, 10:27 AM | #90 | ||
Banned
1130
Rep 4,686
Posts
Drives: L'Orange
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
|
Quote:
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2015, 11:07 AM | #91 |
Private First Class
17
Rep 153
Posts
Drives: 2012 BMW 1M Coupe VO!
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Dubai, United Arab Emirates
|
Both look so beautiful. I am glad the 1M made BMW produce a successor. I will hold my breath until I see a Competition package/face lift, I really dislike the current rims used on all m power cars of the generation except the competition package on the m5/m6, hopefully a new iteration of the ones used on the 1M will be used. As with many here, I will never sell my 1M, it only has 115000 km on the odo and counting
Thank you for posting this the color looks good, never been a fan of the sea of boring (white, grey and black) the color should reflect the personality of the car
__________________
Daily Driver: 2012 BMW 1M Coupe Valencia Orange / 2015 Golf R Torando Red , DCT
Weekend Beast: 2012 Audi R8 GT Frozen White #281/333 |
Appreciate
1
|
11-30-2015, 11:34 AM | #93 |
Colonel
2241
Rep 2,370
Posts |
|
Appreciate
4
|
11-30-2015, 12:50 PM | #95 | |
Major General
1903
Rep 5,678
Posts |
Quote:
0-60 is a meaningless stat as far as I'm concerned anyway so it doesn't really matter all that much. Too limited by traction in cars with meaningful power. 1/4 mile (or better yet, rolling 20 mph starts) are far better measures.
__________________
2020 X3 M40i | Black | Current DD
2020 C8 Corvette | Z51 | Torch Red ... built and waiting for delivery 2016 M2 | Long Beach Blue | 6MT 2015 M4 | Austin Yellow | DCT 2012 MB C63AMG | 2011 E92 M3 | 2010 E92 M3 |
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2015, 02:02 PM | #96 |
Captain
491
Rep 656
Posts |
M2 looks way better. The opinion of the fangs are always aesthetic; people should commend a car company for leaning for function over looks on occasion (in this case they blended the 2).
reverse that logic & that's what made the M5 go from a beast to a pretty land yacht with underwhelming upgrades One oversight that people ignore is how little drag the M2 has over the m235i and 1M. |
Appreciate
1
|
11-30-2015, 02:37 PM | #97 | |
Banned
7905
Rep 11,785
Posts |
Quote:
Who cares about Cd. The people want their " M mirrors " You mind throwing out the figures on the M235i and M2 ? The 1M has a fairly horrible coefficient of Drag at 0.37. I do recall hearing in one of the videos about the M2 that Cd was important to M Engineers in the overall design of the M2. I'm sure that right now at M there are plenty of engineers laughing at forum members that want mirrors, just because, even if they make the car less slippery/slower. They LOOK faster Yo! |
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2015, 02:54 PM | #98 | |
Second Lieutenant
119
Rep 204
Posts |
Quote:
EU curb weight M2 (6MT): 1570kg US curb weight M2 (6MT): 1564kg If you'd add the 75kg driver to make it comparable to the EU measurements, you'd end up with 1639kg in the above comparison. So if the US weight is correct, that would make the car 109kg (240lbs) heavier than the M235i. Where would that weight come from? Heavy M seats? (Non-M) door mirrors made from solid gold? M4 chassis parts made from lead? My theory that they simply included the 75kg driver in the US measurement as well seems more plausible to me. The remaining 6kg difference could simply be down to different standard equipment. As a side note: Their international bmw.com site lists EU weights (+75kg) for the cars as well. At this point, I rather believe every single specification document released by BMW in Germany than one single translated press release. Perhaps we're all wrong and the actual weight is 1489kg/3282lbs (US quoted figure - 75kg). Last edited by sth519; 11-30-2015 at 03:00 PM.. |
|
Appreciate
1
|
11-30-2015, 03:20 PM | #99 | |
Almost completely sane
694
Rep 1,080
Posts |
Quote:
That will be noticeable at high speed on the track. Bigger effect than any tacked-on splitters or trunk lid spoilers. (Assuming that the M235i had about as much lift as the average small car.)
__________________
'17 BMW M2 (BSM 6MT Exec CarPlay, TechnicPnP ASD bypass, IND M Perf shift knob + keyhole cover, Pedal Haus pedals + heel plate, 3M CR90 tint, BavSound Ghost woofers, Racing Dynamics strut tower brace, Dinan midpipe, Turner intercooler)
'00 Honda S2000 (Silverstone Metallic, black leather, factory titanium shift knob + front lip + trunk spoiler, front shock tower brace, front subframe x-brace) |
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2015, 03:49 PM | #100 |
Lieutenant Colonel
123
Rep 1,675
Posts |
No I totally agree with you on this. The front end looks more Jap than Euro. I'm not sure who signed off on the styling cues for the front bumper but is awful. I would be totally ok with 235M bumper with a front lip.
__________________
[SIGPIC]2015-Cayman S (Can't leave bimmerpost)
2009-E92 M3 2005-E46 M3 1998-E36 M3 2007-E92 328i[/SIGPIC] |
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2015, 05:20 PM | #101 |
Banned
1130
Rep 4,686
Posts
Drives: L'Orange
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2015, 05:25 PM | #102 |
Major
778
Rep 1,058
Posts |
The 1M looks very dated next to the M2. BMW was selling a 1 series in Europe in the early 2000s, and the 1 series looked like a knockoff of the e46, which debuted in 1999, if not earlier.
|
Appreciate
1
|
11-30-2015, 05:51 PM | #103 | |
Banned
1130
Rep 4,686
Posts
Drives: L'Orange
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
|
Quote:
never understood that term being used in a comparison of looks to a new model...ALL older generations of any car are 'dated'. lol. An E30 M3 is 'dated' but if much rather have that over any current M car...a 2002 Turbo is even more 'dated' than that and I'd have that over any BMW since! |
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2015, 05:56 PM | #104 | ||
Captain
222
Rep 821
Posts |
Quote:
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2015, 06:06 PM | #105 | |
Banned
7905
Rep 11,785
Posts |
Quote:
dat·ed - /ˈdādəd/ adjective adjective: dated 1. marked with a date. 2. old-fashioned. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2015, 06:28 PM | #107 | |
Colonel
701
Rep 2,337
Posts |
Quote:
1M = M2 =
__________________
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2015, 06:29 PM | #108 | |
Captain
289
Rep 666
Posts |
When you post, I see:
The 1M is the most amazing car ever, ever and even ever. Quote:
The M2 is special enough already, stop with the mirrors - I love this car. Plot twist: Adem1534 buys a 1M and IDEI buys an M2, boom - head explosion.
__________________
Technik 330 Past Projects:
'05 BMW 330Ci ZHP - Technik's ZHP *Sold* '07 Subaru STI - *Sold* '18 Subaru STi Type RA #350 '19 Honda Civic Type R #31191 |
|
Appreciate
3
|
11-30-2015, 06:32 PM | #109 | |
Captain
289
Rep 666
Posts |
Quote:
Phew, glad we got that all sorted.
__________________
Technik 330 Past Projects:
'05 BMW 330Ci ZHP - Technik's ZHP *Sold* '07 Subaru STI - *Sold* '18 Subaru STi Type RA #350 '19 Honda Civic Type R #31191 |
|
Appreciate
1
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|