Active Sound Design (ASD) topics

m34m · 06-03-2017, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

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Originally Posted by Aronis

Ok, just finished a 6 hour drive with three kids in car. Having ASD turned off was the BEST mod for this car. I can hear plenty of engine noise o-natural and when cruising at 80 it was much more comfortable and quite even in sport plus. The car is more noisy than others due to road noise since the thing does not have much sound insulation but it was a much more enjoyable ride with ASD turned off.

Mike

I agree.

I like this car. A lot. I also don't like the ASD feature. That is not a contradiction, nor does it constitute "whining."

Right. Let's reserve "whining" for the sun shade people. I wonder how the Porsche guys get by with ASD?

Aronis · 06-04-2017, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

M2 sounds decent from the factory

Bingo!

Mike

Aronis · 06-04-2017, 05:18 PM

I would not call this discussion whining. There are very rational reasons for not liking the ASD. Perhaps today some drivers like the engine and exhaust noise 'in their face' loud and I can understand that, but if BMW or Porsche or whoever wants to put in fake sound augmentation to attract that subset of consumers then it makes little rational sense for BMW NOT to make this a user selected item. Hell they can CHARGE for it extra, either turning it on or turning it off, but this is not a dealer programable feature either. It took aftermarket coders to defeat this 'feature.'

My RS6 has the extra "sound enhanced exhaust" add some growl and also 5 whole horsepower, but it is not annoying at 80 on the highway. If I get on it, you can hear me from a few blocks away. Great V8 Growl.

Now go code the car so the passenger side temp syncs with the drivers side!

Mike

trj3 · 06-04-2017, 05:57 PM

My car is too loud at 80 mph on the highway because it is at 3 rpm the whole time. Would coding out the asd get rid of the drone. I have the performance exhaust. Do no know if it is a problem on the standard m2? Thanks

Aronis · 06-04-2017, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by trj3

Would coding out the asd get rid of the drone.

Yes.

ahgood · 06-04-2017, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by izzyM2

I turned ASD off and while I'm just in comfort mode and blasting my music, I missed the fake rumble. or is it really fake? The source of the sound is still coming from the exhaust and engine and rerouted to the speakers right? It's meant for us to enjoy the car more by hearing how the car sounds as if you are outside the car. I'm keeping it! Thanks to Bimmelink for instant on/off switch!

bimmercode-backups

trj3 · 06-04-2017, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ahgood

Thanks to Bimmelink for instant on/off switch! Where?

2M · 06-04-2017, 08:21 PM

I disabled it , much nicer ride. Stereo sounds a lot better, Im thinking of disconnecting center speaker and see if it that makes a difference as well

izzyM2 · 06-04-2017, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by trj3

Thanks to Bimmelink for instant on/off switch! Where?

Bimmercode (code off add) or bimmerlink (turn off or on) are Apple apps you can download, pay for, n use.

Follow this thread http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...6#post21785526

DoggieHowser · 06-04-2017, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by izzyM2

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Originally Posted by trj3

Thanks to Bimmelink for instant on/off switch! Where?

Bimmercode (code off add) or bimmerlink (turn off or on) are Apple apps you can download, pay for, n use.

Follow this thread http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...6#post21785526

Do I need to get hardware for it too?

ried · 06-05-2017, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DoggieHowser

Do I need to get hardware for it too?

No. Just code it off.

I have the MPE and coded off the ASD using BimmerCode. Sounds perfect now.

MineralGreyMetallic · 06-05-2017, 11:58 PM

Much prefer it with ASD off. Car still sounds really great from the inside if you put the windows down. I like the option of a quiet ride if I roll the windows up. You don't even get a choice with ASD on.

AndrewC1989 · 06-06-2017, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DoggieHowser

Do I need to get hardware for it too?

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Originally Posted by ried

No. Just code it off.

I have the MPE and coded off the ASD using BimmerCode. Sounds perfect now.

You do need hardware to use the app though...

Luckily it's cheap

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A304MQ7NLQC62N

cookiesowns · 06-07-2017, 01:57 PM

Figured I post here in case people want to figure this out.

So it turns out even on the 2017 M2 PE, ASD causes droning at light throttle at 2-3k rpm.

After I coded it off via the BimmerCode app, not only does the stereo sound better, the car is way more quiet in comfort "sport" exhaust and light throttle. But still livens up in sport+ and exhaust in track mode.

I'm still going to install the ASD delete harness as I noticed a light hiss on the stereo once the ASD was coded off, it may have been there even when it was on.

Will report back once the harness is installed

omasou · 06-07-2017, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cookiesowns

Figured I post here in case people want to figure this out.

So it turns out even on the 2017 M2 PE, ASD causes droning at light throttle at 2-3k rpm.

After I coded it off via the BimmerCode app, not only does the stereo sound better, the car is way more quiet in comfort "sport" exhaust and light throttle. But still livens up in sport+ and exhaust in track mode.

I'm still going to install the ASD delete harness as I noticed a light hiss on the stereo once the ASD was coded off, it may have been there even when it was on.

Will report back once the harness is installed

I had thought others had said the ASD required the HK option and extra amp?

cookiesowns · 06-07-2017, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by omasou

I had thought others had said the ASD required the HK option and extra amp?

I have no idea. It's definitely not a placebo though.

omasou · 06-07-2017, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cookiesowns

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Originally Posted by omasou

I had thought others had said the ASD required the HK option and extra amp?

I have no idea. It's definitely not a placebo though.

Oh, I agree have the same in Sport but have HK.

Had to put the car car in Comfort for the drive home from M Track Days

hoyasaxa · 06-12-2017, 01:03 PM

What's the difference between having the harness vs just coding it off?

Aronis · 06-12-2017, 04:22 PM

Coding cost about $29 for software and $21 for dongle, takes 10 minutes. And you can code other things.

The bypass cable is a bit more expensive and more time consuming to get at the wire harness and add it.

Mike

STK · 06-12-2017, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by izzyM2

I turned ASD off and while I'm just in comfort mode and blasting my music, I missed the fake rumble. or is it really fake? The source of the sound is still coming from the exhaust and engine and rerouted to the speakers right? It's meant for us to enjoy the car more by hearing how the car sounds as if you are outside the car. I'm keeping it! Thanks to Bimmelink for instant on/off switch!

I don't think the sound is rerouted from the exhaust and engine. Lots of complaints that the sound, the footwork, and the tach don't match.

STK · 06-12-2017, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hoyasaxa

What's the difference between having the harness vs just coding it off?

Seems the harness completely bypasses the ASD while some people complain that coding out the ASD leaves a bit of hiss in the stereo system. Do a search for all the details.... Hope this helps.

akkando · 06-12-2017, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by STK

Seems the harness completely bypasses the ASD while some people complain that coding out the ASD leaves a bit of hiss in the stereo system. Do a search for all the details.... Hope this helps.

I believe people are saying that the hiss was only on MY16 but that's just what I read a few times here.

06-04-2017, 05:18 PM	#267
Aronis Brigadier General 2269 Rep 3,293 Posts Drives: 2018 M5 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Binghamton, NY iTrader: (0)	I would not call this discussion whining. There are very rational reasons for not liking the ASD. Perhaps today some drivers like the engine and exhaust noise 'in their face' loud and I can understand that, but if BMW or Porsche or whoever wants to put in fake sound augmentation to attract that subset of consumers then it makes little rational sense for BMW NOT to make this a user selected item. Hell they can CHARGE for it extra, either turning it on or turning it off, but this is not a dealer programable feature either. It took aftermarket coders to defeat this 'feature.' My RS6 has the extra "sound enhanced exhaust" add some growl and also 5 whole horsepower, but it is not annoying at 80 on the highway. If I get on it, you can hear me from a few blocks away. Great V8 Growl. Now go code the car so the passenger side temp syncs with the drivers side! Mike __________________ 2018 M5 and 2019 Porsche Boxster GTS Prior. '94 325is, '97 M3 Lux, '16 M2
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cookiesowns ;) 587 Rep 898 Posts Drives: X5 45e, 535i N54, X3 N55 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: West iTrader: (0)	2017 ASD droning at light throttle 2-3k rpm Figured I post here in case people want to figure this out. So it turns out even on the 2017 M2 PE, ASD causes droning at light throttle at 2-3k rpm. After I coded it off via the BimmerCode app, not only does the stereo sound better, the car is way more quiet in comfort "sport" exhaust and light throttle. But still livens up in sport+ and exhaust in track mode. I'm still going to install the ASD delete harness as I noticed a light hiss on the stereo once the ASD was coded off, it may have been there even when it was on. Will report back once the harness is installed
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Aronis Brigadier General 2269 Rep 3,293 Posts Drives: 2018 M5 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Binghamton, NY iTrader: (0)	Coding cost about $29 for software and $21 for dongle, takes 10 minutes. And you can code other things. The bypass cable is a bit more expensive and more time consuming to get at the wire harness and add it. Mike __________________ 2018 M5 and 2019 Porsche Boxster GTS Prior. '94 325is, '97 M3 Lux, '16 M2
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