[Rapture1]

Yea, but does it have an open or closed deck? I've heard it's open.

[Poochie]

Will the US pricing be available on the 18th also ?

Artemis

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by sunil_linus

Will the US pricing be available on the 18th also ?

Artemis

The reveal is on the 25th.

[SeanWRT]

Originally Posted by Potatohead-M2

It's possible, but it will be slightly laggier in that case.

Targeting higher boost doesn't mean laggier. In most cases DME is targeting lower boost than it would on WOT. Does that make a laggy car less laggy?

A little more on lagginess with S55 and N55:

S55 is inherently a little laggy compared to N55, if you look for the push with say 10+psi. Hence you'll see spool up at higher rpm on a dynograph.

But at a lower boost threshold, maybe 2-5psi, S55 gets there pretty quick, even quicker than N55. It all comes down to different turbo different characteristics.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by sunil_linus

Will the US pricing be available on the 18th also ?

Artemis

Originally Posted by dmboone25

The reveal is on the 25th.

I rather doubt US pricing will be announced in Beijing on the 25th

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

I rather doubt US pricing will be announced in Beijing on the 25th

I think certain people on here have all the details, they just can't post it yet.

[Potatohead-M2]

Originally Posted by SeanWRT

Targeting higher boost doesn't mean laggier. In most cases DME is targeting lower boost than it would on WOT. Does that make a laggy car less laggy?

A little more on lagginess with S55 and N55:

S55 is inherently a little laggy compared to N55, if you look for the push with say 10+psi. Hence you'll see spool up at higher rpm on a dynograph.

But at a lower boost threshold, maybe 2-5psi, S55 gets there pretty quick, even quicker than N55. It all comes down to different turbo different characteristics.

Who’s talking boost levels?

[marcva]

Originally Posted by Gatte

I don't believe that it's completely developed. It probably would've been if BMW had fewer things to do.

Also, nobody knows if it will be the CSL or GTS. Maybe the guys working on the car think it is the GTS because that's what the "Special" cars have been called recently. Maybe BMW will change that to CSL later on.

There are no M2 CSL/GTS (front and rear) badges either. Not yet at least.

We also do not know if it will eventually get the green light or not once fully developed. So many unknowns still...

What is clear is the following:
1, BMW M2 Competition is the new base and not really "special",
2, BMW M2 Competition is not lighter (Probably intentionally) and there is scope for making it lighter (Lesser sound deadening, no rear seats, lighter front seats, CF Roof and some other stuff ),
3, There is room to easily increase S55 engine output which people will do if BMW does not do it themselves,
4, The pricing of the M2 Competition is not competing with cars like the GT4,
5, The M2 still does not have a cult following like what the M3 got with the CSLs and GTSs,

Points 4 and 5 I think are very significant. The M2 still does not have the reputation that the M3 has... or rather had.

To really get that reputation, I think BMW will need to build a halo car that punches way above it's weight. The E30, E46 CSL all did this. The M2 is a great car as most people have mentioned but it still isn't the giant killer that made some of the earlier M3s so desirable.

I really think BMW will need to build such a car to establish the M2 similar to the M3 and somewhat guarantee a long term supply of new customers who will be drawn in by the lower starting price.

Porsche will mostly put in the de-tuned 4.0L naturally aspirated motor from the GT3 in the next GT4. I really think and honestly hope that BMW tries to compete against this. The engineers probably know how to do it. I just hope BMW let's them do their job.

Edit: Artemis, M3 Adjuster : Do you really like the shape of the wing on the M2 racing ? I think that would look ugly on the M2. I really hope BMW spends some money and tries to develop the wing to flow with the shape of the car. Nothing to read between the lines here BTW.

What class would the M2 race in? The m3 dignified itself against known competitors over the years. It seems the M2 is somewhat orphaned on that respect. It's just a great car to play with.

[Spa2k]

Originally Posted by Artemis

10 days ? Just hang on till this Wednesday April 18 for news from Germany.

You have received an invitation to tune in on the18th, M2 enthusiasts!

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

You have received an invitation to tune in on the18th, M2 enthusiasts!

Does this count as a belated Easter egg?

[mtoosexy]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

You have received an invitation to tune in on the18th, M2 enthusiasts!

Artemis
At what Bat-time and what Bat-channel? I WILL BE TUNING IN!!!

[Poochie]

"According to Evo, the coupe would start at 47,260 pounds in the U.K ($67,312 at current exchange rates) when sales start there in July. For comparison, the standard M2 starts at 37,262.50 pounds ($53,082) in the U.K. and has a base price of $54,500 (plus $945 destination) in the United States." - Motor1.com

https://www.motor1.com/news/239158/b...on-specs-leak/

[Transfer]

Dammit people stop comparing GBP to USD pricing. Prices in UK do not convert directly to prices in US.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by TF

fyi: On April 18th, the official information for the German market will be communicated.

Source

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by sunil_linus

"According to Evo, the coupe would start at 47,260 pounds in the U.K ($67,312 at current exchange rates) when sales start there in July. For comparison, the standard M2 starts at 37,262.50 pounds ($53,082) in the U.K. and has a base price of $54,500 (plus $945 destination) in the United States." - Motor1.com

https://www.motor1.com/news/239158/b...on-specs-leak/

You need to subtract 20% from the UK price since their sales tax (VAT) is included in that price. It comes out to about $56,300 USD.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by sunil_linus

"According to Evo, the coupe would start at 47,260 pounds in the U.K ($67,312 at current exchange rates) when sales start there in July. For comparison, the standard M2 starts at 37,262.50 pounds ($53,082) in the U.K. and has a base price of $54,500 (plus $945 destination) in the United States." - Motor1.com

https://www.motor1.com/news/239158/b...on-specs-leak/

They didn't even read the article they are referencing. Or perhaps the price bump was so little they just assumed there was a missing 10k in there.

[Poochie]

An automotive journalist should of mentioned that the price conversion includes VAT. But I guess you have to consider the source..

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Transfer

Dammit people stop comparing GBP to USD pricing. Prices in UK do not convert directly to prices in US.

Newbs

[Spa2k]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

Does this count as a belated Easter egg?

Who knows? I just didn’t want anybody to miss the announcement while they were arguing about why the trunk trim fasteners in the M2 Comp were 4% more aerodynamic than the ones in the M2.

[Spa2k]

Originally Posted by sunil_linus

An automotive journalist should of mentioned that the price conversion includes VAT. But I guess you have to consider the source..

Please do not assume there is anything even remotely resembling an automotive journalist at that site.

[Levente_CSL]

im pretty sure in Germany this car will cost more then 70k EUR

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Yep, when ONE turbo runs out of boost, the second turbo is already primed and ready to go.. That's why having two turbos are special, they're like a tag team..

The S55 turbos are not sequential, they are in parallel...